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Who on here hears voices ? how do you now what it is how to you discern? Do you thin its a mental ilnness/ spiritual or technology based ? Is it possible to be a mixture?

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Hello! I am 42 and I started to unknowingly at the time,  hear voices at the age of 32. I was led to believe that the voices that I was hearing was either people around me, or tv radio people talking to me. In 2007, the voices, what we call v2k told me that they were men with a machine. They proved it. At first I didn't believe them, but they proved it. I tried meds for years to see if that would stop it. Meds didnt do a thing.

Some people get results from meds. There are different theories about why meds might work, but mental illness is one of those possibilities.  I personally think Everyone is a TI. Only a few are aware. So, regardless of the cause of voices, you really are a TI! The difference is that the mentally ill likely hears the v2k, and the illness. 

I dont think it has anything to do with spiritual realm, myself. Others do though. Some claim it might be alien technology. 

Theories differ. 

Good suggestion Jinoe.. Will have to try that. I personally do not get v2k but get everything else in the spectrum of EH and RNM -remote neural monitoring and manipulation. I also have physical ailments unexplained for a year now. Also do Have small gangstalking regimen. I personally believe it is a majority of technology but I believe it is both ground and satellite. I also believe they use your electronics and electric energy to pinpoint you and pass the Frequencies and waves.

Im undecided. I believe in the technology but I believe someone other than mankind is responsible for this - enter spiritual relm or alien race. I dont think any of us can know for sure.

please forgive a possible imminent double post - this paragraph has already been 'sending' for 1/2 hr now:

the story goes (al bieber et al) that montauk opened a dimensional portal for e.t. (who telepathically channeled the super-computer requisites for detouring any repeat of the philadelphia experiment disaster  e.t. refers to this reptilian 'nonsense' so heavily discredited    eisenhauer's secret meeting was where the 'deal' happened - mind control tech (power over US) in exchange for what i call 'grayzing' privileges - circumventing a galactically illegal (punishable) 'B & E' on the third dimension   paul bennewitz began receiving radio signals (of the sort that william reich recorded (ie: 'offshore) before being murdered) and tesla invented the neurophone with which he contacted e.t. AND the recently departed (he SAYS...but has been subsequently discredited as unsound: sound familiar?), a coincidental tech-spirit cross-over also explored by harvard's investigated then supported ufo abduction professor john mack just before a truck killed him  (his documentary on the 60 s. african kids who saw 2 aliens emerge from a ufo and telephically show the end of the world (fire - no air to breathe) adding that it's not too late  (this was in 2004, 'old news')  these grade 1 to 8 students have not changed a word of their 'stories' yet   the crop circle with the alien holding up a disc has been translated and warns of false promisors (that secret deal - the mind control tech of course will disable ALL of us, even the corrupt turncoats who now use this 'classified' tech on us): THIS is why both ufo abductees (documented) AND syn-tel targets report telepathy and mind-control brain implants

Very interesting info, we live in a BIG universe, much bigger than what we see but our beliefs tend to be boxed into only that which we CAN see.

LaBrat said:

please forgive a possible imminent double post - this paragraph has already been 'sending' for 1/2 hr now:

the story goes (al bieber et al) that montauk opened a dimensional portal for e.t. (who telepathically channeled the super-computer requisites for detouring any repeat of the philadelphia experiment disaster  e.t. refers to this reptilian 'nonsense' so heavily discredited    eisenhauer's secret meeting was where the 'deal' happened - mind control tech (power over US) in exchange for what i call 'grayzing' privileges - circumventing a galactically illegal (punishable) 'B & E' on the third dimension   paul bennewitz began receiving radio signals (of the sort that william reich recorded (ie: 'offshore) before being murdered) and tesla invented the neurophone with which he contacted e.t. AND the recently departed (he SAYS...but has been subsequently discredited as unsound: sound familiar?), a coincidental tech-spirit cross-over also explored by harvard's investigated then supported ufo abduction professor john mack just before a truck killed him  (his documentary on the 60 s. african kids who saw 2 aliens emerge from a ufo and telephically show the end of the world (fire - no air to breathe) adding that it's not too late  (this was in 2004, 'old news')  these grade 1 to 8 students have not changed a word of their 'stories' yet   the crop circle with the alien holding up a disc has been translated and warns of false promisors (that secret deal - the mind control tech of course will disable ALL of us, even the corrupt turncoats who now use this 'classified' tech on us): THIS is why both ufo abductees (documented) AND syn-tel targets report telepathy and mind-control brain implants

our sense organs have been described as the prison's bars   transcendental meditation (or o.b.e.) creates some constructive separation, i have also read - but alas, theory alone is actually counter-productive in this 'field'   my inner "aye" is blocked by the walls of my ears, so, like the t.m. hippie who fell off of a mountain, i am om-less! ;)  i forgot to mention that serge monast quote about the 'negative energies' of a technological and spiritual nature i sent you, sue - i'll track it down, as it really makes the 'connection' 

when I hear Montauk project and then people waffle on about "time travel" I think disinfo ...

now if there was something going on at Montauk then there are some interesting things first Montauk is an abandoned SAGE radar base

Sage radar antenna emitted a frequency of approximately 400-425 Megahertz,

there is a lot of speculation about these frequencies being used in mind control projects 

also the so-called Montauk chair were seemingly all these time travel /alien contact experiences happened sounds very much like what Dr Persinger does with the "God helmet" ...i.e firing  weak complex magnetic fields into the brain to induce complex hallucinations ....

Now if people in them days were having their brains zapped like that , then I am pretty sure they would report hallucinations of time traveling , meeting beings and all kinds of things....

The Sensed Presence with Dr. Persinger

http://youtu.be/mDfhTsCm-l8

"The God Helmet" & Alien Encounters

http://youtu.be/pdW4trVZMQ4

they do report such things - read al bieber about HIS (witnessed) back-to-the-future experience!  teleportation has been an open secret in canada since 1952 (year of the nova scotia ufo reported by police, and 5 years after roswell)   our former defence chief paul helleyer, pushing for disclosure (as do most retired, free to speak military) says about ufo's: "they're as real as the planes over your head"  i've mentioned my own witnessed ufo abduction - and that we've both photographed ufo's 'etc' - just today she took a clear photo with a ufo in it!  i will forward it when i can (tech-no skill)   how can we be sure it's a ufo?  after all, it's just a 'light in the sky' (beside a sunset) with a triangular beam descending from it, not far away    BUT - she didn't see it when she shot the photo!  the people who "get their brains zapped like that" usually don't report it because of what we birthlings like to refer to as the 'flashy thing'   you might describe it as 'mind control'  'again' why i note the parallel of ufo abductees and syn-tel targets both reporting telepathic encounters and mind-control brain implants   and the only real "waffling" on time travel ended when, as i've said before, stephan hawkings finally stopped lying about it!   hasn't it occurred to you that persinger's god helmet is CONFIRMATION of montauk?  it's the same thing!  btw eisenhauer himself reported meeting with these 'beings'   "waffle, disinfo and speculation" indeed! 

the sky full of unidentified flying objects ....all it means is the observer can`t make out what they are seeing ...that can simple be from distance ...seeing things at odd angles ....effects of lighting ... plus we live on a planet and theirs all kinds of weird and strange phenomena ...plus the effects on the brain and how we actually perceive (perception) works off the objective world around us .....plus video/cameras especially digital are notorious for lens flares and whole list of artifacts.

again in the Worldwide Campaign to stop the Abuse and Torture of Mind Control/DEWs we need to stick to the documents,facts and verifiable evidence.....not get subverted into UFology that's full of speculation and belief were you can`t really verify/demonstrate anything as fact and use in a court of law ...and really just adds confusion,misdirection and "fog" to what we as TI`s experince ....i,e man-made abuse off technology used on us ...

really if you want to speculate about UFO,ET,time travel , spirits, demos etc ...then really I suggest you do it else where as this is not the website for that...unless you want to talk about these experiences being induced by man-made technology like what Dr Persinger does ....and that the belief in ET,UFO being off world space ship are a cover story  created by the CIA to cover up cover black projects then fine

can YOU 'demonstrate' synthetic telepathy in a court of law?  without getting committed?  "plus the effects of this..plus the effects of that..." fin27uk you'll notice sue and i and many other members have no trouble at all listening to what each other have to say about just about any topic under the sun   we manage to work around our (2) gatekeepers of knowledge who can only tell us what we DON'T know   deca go back and read what sue wrote   who are YOU to talk about "permissible topics" after accusing others of doing the same to you? "the c.i.a. made up ufo's to cover something ELSE up" haha!  "really if you want to speculate" that you have an idea what you're pontificating about THIS time, how about some freaking FACTS?!  or how about bringing back those ridiculous pctures of 'nasa space monkeys from 1948' - crashing weather balloons in roswell in 1947!  you have done exactly the same thing here - brought evidence to SUPPORT what you are trying to discredit:  item 'A': yes, it is indeed suspicious that this 'abandoned' base (obviously you have NOT researched the history, no surprise there) is set up with relevant equipment  funny, that, wot?  item 'B': indeed - the reports you yourself have heard DO tend to confirm persinger's work, being in fact identical in purpose and effect   once again, thank you for providing evidence for my position    item 'C' all the things you call 'hallucinations' actually happened (as i just mentioned) - bieber the time travel, eisenhauer the meeting, phildelphia experiment sailors being literally stuck between dimensions - it's a whole big world when you open your mind up just a little crack instead of refusing to look at evidence and then pronouncing authoritatively that it's 'not there'    the ostrich school of 'thought' - or is it the 'killdeer' again?    'mother may i' talk about "gangstalking" now?

look there is plenty of proof than man is doing mind control experiments , MK ultra , developing implants and even synthetic telepathy ...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27162401/ns/technology_and_science-scienc...

thou actually proving its being done to an unwitting human is very difficult but not impossible to prove ...

so there is a long sordid history of mankind doing unethical illegal human experiments, supportive evidence that these types of technology are being developed ......there is no need for any paranormal explanation at all ..its all pretty well documented .....the only reason to tag ET,UFOS ,DEMONS is to blur the blatant obvious that this is man-made and play into people's superstitions and draw people away from the truth . 

Dude , I been researching this for years and debating it for years with "believers" on many other forums ok dude....

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