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At 7:39am on August 20, 2009, Robin Yan said…
Dear all victims:

Topic: The evidence being collected, captured and intercepted; and the
way I find to protect myself from those non-lethal weapons.

I, Robin Yan, as a victim of torture through the use of non-lethal weapons and the gang-stalking, happened in Canada, make a statement to our victims and the people in the world, as follows:

In the near future, I will disclose those hard evidence to the world to testify that the torture through the non-lethal weapons, mind control, TI, direct energy weapons… really exist in our world. In the meanwhile, the way I find to protect myself from those non-lethal weapons will be disclosed for our victims and the people in the world.


Best regards,

Robin Yan

19/08/2009
At 9:51am on August 8, 2009, ron said…
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Ron Angell wrote:


STATE SECRET PROTECTION ACT OF 2009

From: Ron Angell
Subject: STATE SECRET PROTECTION ACT OF 2009
To: constitutionalsdemocrcacy@democracy.org
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:10 PM

STATE SECRET PROTECTION ACT OF 2009

=======================================================================


HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION,
CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CIVIL LIBERTIES

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 984

__________

JUNE 4, 2009

__________


Serial
No. 111-14

__________

Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary


Available via the World Wide Web: http://judiciary.house.gov

----------
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

50-070 PDF WASHINGTON : 2009

For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing
Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800;
DC area (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2250 Mail: Stop SSOP,
Washington, DC 20402-0001










COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

JOHN CONYERS, Jr., Michigan, Chairman
HOWARD L. BERMAN, California LAMAR SMITH, Texas
RICK BOUCHER, Virginia F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Jr.,
JERROLD NADLER, New York

Wisconsin
ROBERT C. ``BOBBY'' SCOTT, Virginia HOWARD COBLE, North Carolina
MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina ELTON GALLEGLY, California
ZOE LOFGREN, California BOB GOODLATTE, Virginia
SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas DANIEL E. LUNGREN, California
MAXINE WATERS, California DARRELL E. ISSA, California
WILLIAM D. DELAHUNT, Massachusetts J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia
ROBERT WEXLER, Florida STEVE KING, Iowa
STEVE COHEN, Tennessee TRENT FRANKS, Arizona
HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., LOUIE GOHMERT, Texas
Georgia JIM JORDAN, Ohio
PEDRO PIERLUISI, Puerto Rico TED POE, Texas
MIKE QUIGLEY, Illinois JASON CHAFFETZ, Utah
LUIS V. GUTIERREZ, Illinois TOM ROONEY, Florida
BRAD SHERMAN, California GREGG HARPER, Mississippi
TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
CHARLES A. GONZALEZ, Texas
ANTHONY

D. WEINER, New York
ADAM B. SCHIFF, California
LINDA T. SANCHEZ, California
DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, Florida
DANIEL MAFFEI, New York

Perry Apelbaum, Majority Staff Director and Chief Counsel
Sean McLaughlin, Minority Chief of Staff and General Counsel
------

Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties

JERROLD NADLER, New York, Chairman

MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Jr.,
ROBERT C. ``BOBBY'' SCOTT, Virginia Wisconsin
WILLIAM D. DELAHUNT, Massachusetts TOM ROONEY, Florida
HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., STEVE KING, Iowa
Georgia TRENT FRANKS, Arizona
TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin LOUIE GOHMERT, Texas
JOHN CONYERS, Jr., Michigan JIM JORDAN, Ohio
STEVE COHEN, Tennessee
BRAD
SHERMAN,
California
SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas

David Lachmann, Chief of Staff

Paul B. Taylor, Minority Counsel










C O N T E N T S

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JUNE 4, 2009

Page

THE BILL

H.R. 984, the ``State Secret Protection Act of 2009.............. 4

OPENING STATEMENTS

The Honorable Jerrold Nadler, a Representative in Congress from
the State of New York, and Chairman, Subcommittee on the
Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties................ 1
The Honorable F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr., a Representative in
Congress from the State of Wisconsin,
and Ranking
Member,
Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil
Liberties...................................................... 17
The Honorable John Conyers, Jr., a Representative in Congress
from the State of Michigan, Chairman, Committee on the
Judiciary, and Member, Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil
Rights, and Civil Liberties.................................... 18

WITNESSES

The Honorable Patricia M. Wald, retired Chief Judge, U.S. Court
oF Appeals for the District of Columbia
Oral Testimony................................................. 21
Prepared Statement............................................. 24
The Honorable Asa Hutchinson, Senior Partner, Hutchinson Law
Group
Oral Testimony................................................. 29
Prepared
Statement............................................. 31
Mr.
Andrew Grossman, Senior Legal Policy Analyst, The Heritage
Foundation
Oral Testimony................................................. 55
Prepared Statement............................................. 57
Mr. Ben Wizner, National Security Project Staff Attorney,
American Civil Liberties Union
Oral Testimony................................................. 83
Prepared Statement............................................. 85

APPENDIX

Material Submitted for the Hearing Record........................ 111


STATE SECRET PROTECTION ACT OF 2009

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THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 2009

House of Representatives,
Subcommittee on the
Constitution,
Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties,

Committee on the Judiciary,
Washington, DC.

The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:09 p.m., in
room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, the Honorable Jerrold
Nadler (Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
Present: Representatives Nadler, Conyers, Delahunt,
Johnson, Sensenbrenner, Franks, and King.
Staff Present: Heather Sawyer, Majority Counsel; and Paul
Taylor, Minority Counsel.
Mr. Nadler. This hearing of the Subcommittee on the
Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties will come to
order.
Today's hearing will examine the state secrets privilege.
The Chair recognizes himself for 5 minutes for an opening
statement.
Today, the Subcommittee examines legislation that I have
introduced, along
with the distinguished Chairman of the full
Committee, with Representative Tom
Petri, and with several
other Members of the Committee, that would codify uniform
standards for dealing with claims of the state secrets
privilege by the government in civil litigation.
In the last Congress, we had an oversight hearing on the
state secrets privilege and a hearing on this legislation. The
bill was reported favorably to the full Committee.
Our experience has demonstrated the destructive impact that
sweeping claims of privilege and secrecy can have on our
Nation. In order for the rule of law to have any meaning,
individual liberties and rights must be enforceable in our
courts. Separation-of-powers concerns are at their highest with
regard to secret executive branch conduct, and the government
simply cannot be allowed to hide behind unexamined claims of
secrecy and become the final arbiter of
its own conduct.
Yet, claims of secrecy have been used to conceal matters

from Congress even though Members have the security clearance
necessary to be briefed in an appropriately secure setting.
That has been the case with respect to the use of torture, with
the use of illegal spying on Americans, and other matters of
tremendous national importance.
And let me add here that this issue is perhaps the most
important issue, in my judgment, this Committee will face,
because this Committee is charged with enforcing civil rights
and civil liberties under our Constitution. And there is an
ancient maxim of law that says there is no right without a
remedy. And if the government violates your rights, if it
kidnaps you, it tortures you, it deliberately burns down your
house, it wiretaps you without a warrant, whatever, how do you
enforce your right against the government?
Well, the
Administration could criminally prosecute its own
members who have done so; that is
unlikely. Congress could
exercise oversight; that is hit or miss. Or the victim can sue
in tort, he can sue the government for illegal wiretapping, for
kidnapping, for intentional infliction of mental distress, for
assault, whatever.
But if the government can eliminate that lawsuit on the
pleadings simply by coming into court and using the magic
incantation of the words ``state secrets,'' and say, ``This
case should be dismissed because we say, in our unexamined
assertion, that trying the case would necessitate the
revelation of state secrets, case dismissed,'' then there is no
recourse to the courts and there is no enforcement of rights.
And rights without a remedy are illusory and we have no rights.
Therefore, we must put some limits on this use of the state
secret doctrine.
The same pattern of
resorting to extravagant state secrets
claims has been evident in the courts. While the
Bush
administration did not invent the use of the state secrets
privilege to conceal wrongdoing, it certainly perfected the
art. The state secrets privilege has been abused by prior
Administrations to protect officials who have behaved illegally
or improperly or simply in an embarrassing manner, rather than
to protect the safety and security of the Nation.
The landmark case in the field, U.S. v. Reynolds, is a
perfect case in point. The widows of three civilian engineers
sued the government for negligence stemming from a fatal air
crash. The government refused to produce the accident report,
even refusing to provide it to the court to review, claiming it
would reveal sensitive state secrets that would endanger
national security. The Supreme Court concurred without ever
looking behind the government's
unsupported assertion that
national security was involved.
Half a century later, the
report was found, now
declassified, online by the daughter of one of the engineers,
and it clearly revealed no state secrets. It clearly could have
been made available in a form that would have enabled those
families to vindicate their rights in court. It did, however,
reveal that the crash was caused by government negligence,
which I suspect was the real reason for the invocation, or the
invention in that case, of the state secrets doctrine.
Protecting the government from embarrassment and civil
liability, not protecting national security, was the real
reason for withholding the accident report. Yet these families
were denied justice because the Supreme Court never looked
behind the government's false claim to determine whether it was
valid.
Similarly, in the Pentagon Papers case,
then-Solicitor
General Erwin Griswold warned the Supreme Court that
publication of the information would
pose a grave and immediate
danger to national security. Eighteen years later, he
acknowledged that he had never seen, quote, ``any trace of a
threat to the national security,'' unquote, from the
publication of the information and further admitted that,
quote, ``The principle concern is not with national security
but rather with government embarrassment of one sort or
another,'' close quote.
It is important to protect national security, and sometimes
our courts have to balance the need for individual justice with
national security considerations. Congress has in the past
balanced these important, albeit sometimes competing, demands.
In the criminal context, we enacted the Classified Informations
Procedure Act. In FISA, we set up procedures for the courts to
examine sensitive
materials. Through the Freedom of Information
Act, we sought to limit any withholding of information from the

public whom the government is supposed to serve.
We can and should do the same in civil cases. Our system of
government and our legal system have never relied on taking
assurances at face value. The courts and the Congress have a
duty to look behind what this Administration or any
Administration says to determine whether or not those
assurances are well-founded.
Presidents and other government officials have been known
not to tell the truth on occasion, especially when it is in
their interest to conceal something. The founders of this
Nation knew that there needed to be checks in each branch of
the government to prevent such abuses from taking the place.
Or, in the words of the Ninth Circuit in the recent Jeppesen
decision, ``The executive cannot be its own judge.'' To allow

that--and these are now my words--to allow that is to abandon
all the protections against tyranny that our
Founding Fathers
established.
Courts have a duty to protect national security secrets,
but they also have a duty to make an independent judgment as to
whether state secrets claims have any merit. When the
government itself is a party, the court cannot allow it to
become the final arbiter of its own case. The purpose of this
legislation is to ensure that the correct balance is struck.
I would just add that I am extremely disappointed that the
Department of Justice has declined to provide a witness to
discuss this very important issue at this hearing. I have met
with the Attorney General, and I understand that a review of
this policy is currently under way. Nonetheless, the Department
continues to go into court while this review is under way and
take positions that are
remarkably similar to positions taken
by the last Administration.
While I greatly appreciate the Attorney General's

willingness to work with us, I believe that it should be
possible to send someone to provide us with the
Administration's views and to answer our questions to the
extent that they are able. I hope this is not a sign of things
to come.
I look forward to the testimony of our witnesses.
I would now recognize the distinguished Ranking minority
Member, the gentleman from Wisconsin, Mr. Sensenbrenner, for
his opening statement.
[The bill, H.R. 984, follows:]

[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]

Mr. Sensenbrenner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The state secrets privilege is a longstanding legal
doctrine the Supreme Court most recently described in a case
called U.S. v. Reynolds. In that case, the court made it clear
that if the court,
after giving appropriate deference to the
executive branch, determines that public disclosure of
information would harm
national security, the court is obliged
to either dismiss the case or limit the public disclosure of
national security information as necessary.
Under this doctrine, people with legitimate claims are not
denied access to court review. Rather, the doctrine allows
judges to personally review any sensitive information. While
this doctrine may occasionally disadvantage someone suing in
court, it is vital to protecting the safety of all Americans.
The roots of the state secrets privilege extend all the way
back to Chief Justice Marshall, the author of Marbury v.
Madison, who held that the government need not provide any
information that would endanger public safety.
In the modern era, Congress debated the issue of the state
secrets privilege under Federal law in the
1970's but
ultimately chose to maintain the status quo, including elements
of the privilege put in place by the Supreme Court
in its
Reynolds decision. The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals recently
employed the doctrine in affirming the dismissal of the case,
including that the state secrets privilege has a firm
foundation in the Constitution.
Not surprisingly, the privilege has played a significant
role in the Justice Department's response to civil litigation
arising out of our counterterrorism efforts following 9/11.
The state secrets doctrine remains strongly supported by
today's Supreme Court. Even in its Boumediene decision granting
habeas litigation rights to terrorists, Justice Kennedy, in his
majority opinion, acknowledged the government's legitimate
interest in protecting sources and methods of intelligence
gathering and stated, ``We expect the district court will use
its
discretion to accommodate this interest to the greatest
extent possible,'' while citing the Reynolds state secrets case
I
mentioned earlier in doing so.
I oppose any efforts, including this bill, that invite the
courts to deviate from the sound procedures they currently
follow to protect vital national security information. H.R. 984
would preclude judges from giving weight to the executive
branch's assessment of national security. And it would
authorize courts not to use ex parte proceedings in conducting
a review of privileged claims. And it would prevent courts from
being able to dismiss a case when the government cannot defend
itself without using privileged information.
The Obama administration is clearly not enamored with the
approach of this legislation and has adhered in court to the
doctrine as asserted by the previous Administration in at least
three cases already. According
to The Washington Post editorial
page, the Obama administration's position on state secrets
makes it hard to distinguish from
its predecessor. Anthony
Romero, the executive director of the ACLU, has written that
the new Administration has embraced policies held over from the
Bush era, including the use of the state secrets claim.
Last Congress, legislation essentially the same as H.R. 984
was cosponsored in the Senate by Senators Joe Biden and Hillary
Clinton, who are now President Obama's Vice President and
Secretary of State. But this year, President Obama, Vice
President Biden, and Secretary of State Clinton have gone
silent on the bill. When asked about it recently, the Vice
President's communications director said, quote, ``No comment
on this one here.''
At 5:11am on May 28, 2009, ron said…

HUMAN PERFORMANCE-The Dept of Defense Jason Program, the NON profit Mitre corp, Lehman Brothers mind control



VIP VIP VIP

The Mitre Corp HUMAN PERFORMANCE

Evidence of Torture

Evidence of Torture


Please look at the Document (Human Performance) Human.pdf That is the Mitre Corporation. The Chairman of the Board of the Mitre corp as well as formerly being in the US DoD Defense dept as well as being on the board of directors of Lehman Brothers is Dr. James R. Schlesinger

http://www.mitre.org/about/trustees.html

Chairman
Board Member Since 1985


Dr. James R. Schlesinger currently divides his time between MITRE, where he serves as chairman of the board, and the investment banking firm of Barclays Capital, where he serves as senior advisor. He is also a consultant to the Departments of Defense and State, and a member of the Defense Policy Board and the International Security Advisory Board.

Dr. Schlesinger is a fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration and a member of the American Academy of Diplomacy. He is a director for Evergreen Energy and Sandia National Corporation. He is also a counselor and trustee of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a trustee of the Atlantic Council, the Nixon Center, the National Cryptologic Museum Foundation, the Center for Global Energy Studies, and the Henry M. Jackson Foundation.

Google The Dept of Defense Jason Program. The 60 or so members have formed the Mitre Corporation based out of McLean VA as well as a Fusion Center and mind control center outside of Boston. http://www.mitre.org

Evidence of Torture

Evidence of Torture
At 6:44am on May 14, 2009, ron said…
This is why northerners cannot work in Florida:

In Memory Of Donnie Simmons- Uncle of Renay Texas- Florida State Trooper-Torture IN LEE COUNTY FLORIDA, Fort Myers Florida, Cape Coral Florida, Lehigh Florida

Ecological Labortories -Renay Texas.jpg (42.9 Kb) attached
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1_In Memory Of Donnie Simmons- Uncle of Renay Texas- Florida State Trooper.jpg (26.8 Kb) attached
Testimony By Rene Texas.jpg (38.2 Kb) attached
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2_Lee County has done to Renay Texas.jpg (48.0 Kb) attached
Indepn Kentucky.jpg (41.7 Kb) attached
Those in Florida responsible for the massive death, theft of those in Lee County, Cape coral, Fort Myers, Leheigh,.jpg (45.6 Kb) attached
Renay Texas beaten from an early age.jpg (34.7 Kb) attached

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Angell
To: rpangell@umich.edu
Sent: Sun May 10 10:22
Subject: Fwd: In Memory of Donnie Simmons State Trooper- Torture Testimony of 'Renay Texas'- Those Responsible in Florida , Dallas, Kentucky.






04_what Crimes Lee County is guilty of- Renay Texas.jpg (41.9 Kb) attached
1_In Memory Of Donnie Simmons- Uncle of Renay Texas- State Trooper.jpg (26.8 Kb) attached
Those in Florida responsible for the massive death, theft of those in Lee County, Cape coral, Fort Myers, Leheigh,.jpg (45.6 Kb) attached
Renay Texas beaten from an early age.jpg (34.7 Kb) attached
3_Those Responsible in Lee County page 0002.jpg (53.3 Kb) attached
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Ecological Labortories -Renay Texas.jpg (42.9 Kb) attached

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Angell
To: rpangell@umich.edu
Sent: Thu Jan 8 22:00
Subject: Fwd: In Memory of Donnie Simmons State Trooper- Torture Testimony of 'Renay Texas'- Those Responsible in Florida , Dallas, Kentucky.



In Memory of Donnie Simmons State Trooper- Torture Testimony of "Renay Texas"- Those Responsible in
Florida , Dallas, Kentucky.

"Renay Texas" has lived in Lee county on and off and tells the story of what happened here in
Florida over the past 30 years in her diary. She requestsed I post it and send it to
International Courts to document the massive human rights Violations in Florida. It started in
Florida first and moved throughout the country and now the world.

Notes from “Renay Texas” of Fort Myers Florida age 43 years.

“Donnie Simmons... my uncle who was a great man. Who was a state trooper. He had a very good
life”- Renay Texas


Notes from January 2nd 2009

For the family of “Renay Texas”: Juan Carlose, Antonio Boza and her son Davie

From the Diary of Renay Texas
Jeffrey D. Sasher Sr. and Steve Jamerson are her torturers.
“Ilene Janous” is a person of interest in the torture of “Renay Texas”

According to “Renay Texas” the incinerator for the bodies is/was near Paige Field. “That's where
the bodies were burned”. Over 70 friends and associates of “Renay Texas” have died in Fort Myers
Florida in the 30 years she has been here.

“This goes to Antonio so he can piece it all together... all the years they took- 30 years, all
the lies they told. And all they have tried to extort from us. 72 Million dollars- tax dollars
stolen”- Renay Texas

Jeffrey D. Sasher is the former husband of Renay Texas


“Lee County has done everything to ever keep me from building my life back... They keep on trying
to cover up a city of lies. So many people .. did ever to keep me from going home.” Renay Texas

1994... Williamstown Kentucky Grant County

“Lee County cape coral is destroying their city”

“Selling of the buildings..... the biggest corruption, extortion, embezzlement, kidnapping,
hostage, fraud, forgery, purger, real estate embezzlement, insurance fraud, tax evasion.... ...To
see all the KKK put in jail and in prison... for what they did to me and juan Carlose in 1999 and
2005”


“Hamilton Ohio and Hazzard Kentucky, Covington Kentucky, Newport Kentucky... [Ashland Kentucky]
have Ecological Laberatories”

“Organized Crime buddy Jeff Sasher is coming all the way from Kentucky to Joe Beach.. “

“Grant County, Kentucky, 9208 Hawk Ridge Indapendence Kentucky..Covingon Kentucky, [whole state of
Arizona]...

“To beat upon a female... from the time I was born to even now.. Is sad fro a poor town [Fort
Myers] trying to get rich off one.. they are always trying to blame it on some one else.. They
[Fort Myers] did it on purpose”

From Renay Texas in Fort Myers Florida

“Most haniss crime.. Lee County and Cape Coral Florida, and Kentucky are guilty of Tampering with
mail, kiddnapping, [harboring fugatives] hostage taking grand theft of [Homes, cars, boats, human
beings]

“It is the KKK that is doing all the vandalism and aron. 1880 Texas Rangers.. 1930 and 2005...
San Antonio Texas...”

1999 until 205

“2.5 years of Federal Investigation.. hate crimes.....jeffrey Davis Sahser Sr.. lied in East Fort
Myers and went to school there. .. sold drugs out of his trunk of his car at the time he is already
linked to Ilene Janous and Greg Mullin's.. and Diane McKaine and Shiela Favor's and Rob Lucas and
Tiffany Janous and Steve Jamerson and Bob Sasher and Ray Sasher and Ken Disxon and Mike Curry, and
Rick Alred and Rick Janous and Bobby Janous and Debbie Johnson and Daisy Valdanham and Fred Frear
and James Macabey and travis and Joy Sasher and Valarey Gillmore and Mike Gillmore and Tina Beach
and Joe Beach and Jayson Williams and Bunkcy Pine's and Holly Pine's and Brittany Mullin's and
Christ Mullins and Stafanie Jamerson and Ryan Jamerson and Calaway Jamerson and Kevin Switzer and
Anna Mae Sasher and AJ and Harley Janous and Cheryl Bate's and Bill Welch... involved in Extortion
and embeslement and filling in false statements, slander, stalking, harrasment, and kiddnapping and
vandalism and murder and force of pornography and purgarey forgary, and sexual harrrassment”


“[Jeffrey Sasher Sr.... bragged about.. being in the KKK showed every body his shot gun.. [also
involved in crime].. Gary Lynch, noel Clark, Besty Brunner..

“Dr. Palaskie.. 1999 they set [Bobby's] Jaw when [Bobby] was in a Coma.. Christy was a witness..



Notes from “Renay Texas” of Fort Myers Florida age 43 years.

“Donnie Simmons... my uncle who was a great man. Who was a state trooper. He had a very good
life”- Renay Texas


Notes from January 2nd 2009

For the family of “Renay Texas”: Juan Carlose, Antonio Boza and her son Davie

From the Diary of Renay Texas
Jeffrey D. Sasher Sr. and Steve Jamerson are her torturers.
“Ilene Janous” is a person of interest in the torture of “Renay Texas”

According to “Renay Texas” the incinerator for the bodies is/was near Paige Field. “That's where
the bodies were burned”. Over 70 friends and associates of “Renay Texas” have died in Fort Myers
Florida in the 30 years she has been here.

“This goes to Antonio so he can piece it all together... all the years they took- 30 years, all
the lies they told. And all they have tried to extort from us. 72 Million dollars- tax dollars
stolen”- Renay Texas

Jeffrey D. Sasher is the former husband of Renay Texas


“Lee County has done everything to ever keep me from building my life back... They keep on trying
to cover up a city of lies. So many people .. did ever to keep me from going home.” Renay Texas

1994... Williamstown Kentucky Grant County

“Lee County cape coral is destroying their city”

“Selling of the buildings..... the biggest corruption, extortion, embezzlement, kidnapping,
hostage, fraud, forgery, purger, real estate embezzlement, insurance fraud, tax evasion.... ...To
see all the KKK put in jail and in prison... for what they did to me and juan Carlose in 1999 and
2005”


“Hamilton Ohio and Hazzard Kentucky, Covington Kentucky, Newport Kentucky... [Ashland Kentucky]
have Ecological Laberatories”

“Organized Crime buddy Jeff Sasher is coming all the way from Kentucky to Joe Beach.. “

“Grant County, Kentucky, 9208 Hawk Ridge Indapendence Kentucky..Covingon Kentucky, [whole state of
Arizona]...

“To beat upon a female... from the time I was born to even now.. Is sad fro a poor town [Fort
Myers] trying to get rich off one.. they are always trying to blame it on some one else.. They
[Fort Myers] did it on purpose”

From Renay Texas in Fort Myers Florida

“Most haniss crime.. Lee County and Cape Coral Florida, and Kentucky are guilty of Tampering with
mail, kiddnapping, [harboring fugatives] hostage taking grand theft of [Homes, cars, boats, human
beings]

“It is the KKK that is doing all the vandalism and aron. 1880 Texas Rangers.. 1930 and 2005...
San Antonio Texas...”

1999 until 205

“2.5 years of Federal Investigation.. hate crimes.....jeffrey Davis Sahser Sr.. lied in East Fort
Myers and went to school there. .. sold drugs out of his trunk of his car at the time he is already
linked to Ilene Janous and Greg Mullin's.. and Diane McKaine and Shiela Favor's and Rob Lucas and
Tiffany Janous and Steve Jamerson and Bob Sasher and Ray Sasher and Ken Disxon and Mike Curry, and
Rick Alred and Rick Janous and Bobby Janous and Debbie Johnson and Daisy Valdanham and Fred Frear
and James Macabey and travis and Joy Sasher and Valarey Gillmore and Mike Gillmore and Tina Beach
and Joe Beach and Jayson Williams and Bunkcy Pine's and Holly Pine's and Brittany Mullin's and
Christ Mullins and Stafanie Jamerson and Ryan Jamerson and Calaway Jamerson and Kevin Switzer and
Anna Mae Sasher and AJ and Harley Janous and Cheryl Bate's and Bill Welch... involved in Extortion
and embeslement and filling in false statements, slander, stalking, harrasment, and kiddnapping and
vandalism and murder and force of pornography and purgarey forgary, and sexual harrrassment”


“[Jeffrey Sasher Sr.... bragged about.. being in the KKK showed every body his shot gun.. [also
involved in crime].. Gary Lynch, noel Clark, Besty Brunner..

“Dr. Palaskie.. 1999 they set [Bobby's] Jaw when [Bobby] was in a Coma.. Christy was a witness..


01ThoseResponsible In Lee County Florida Fort MyersCapeCoral.jpg

02_what Crimes Lee County is guilty of- Renay Texas.jpg

03Those in Florida responsible for the massive death, theft of those in Lee County, Cape coral, Fort Myers, Leheigh,.jpg

04Testimony By Rene Texas.jpg
,

06 (Hamilton Ohio.jpg,

07 (1_In Memory Of Donnie Simmons- Uncle of Renay Texas- State Trooper.jpg

08Independence Kentucky_is_not_Free.jpg,



09_Lee County has done to Renay Texas.jpg,


10_Ecological Labortories -Renay Texas.jpg,


11_crimes by Florida done To Renay texas.jpg

01Larson Report Edit.pdf,


Tara Potter helped to shut the MK Ultra program down with Ted Kennedy in 1977 in Montreal Canada

Here testimony of torture is in this wav file

SaraTestimonial_Part_B_.wav
At 10:53am on April 7, 2009, ron said…
----- Original Message -----

From: "ron angell" a href="/mc/compose?to=ron_angell@linuxmail.org">ron_angell@linuxmail.org>
To: "ron angell" a href="/mc/compose?to=ron_angell@linuxmail.org">ron_angell@linuxmail.org>
Subject: Also I am in Florida because a Prof friend of Mine. Dr. Peter D'Agostino wrote a book in Oak Park Illinois
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:36:14 +0800


Prof Peter D'Agostino was a prof of History at the Univ. of
Illinois in Chicago.  He wrote a book called "Rome in America"..
two days before it was published he was murdered two doors down
from his house.   He went to my church where I was an Usher-
Ascension Catholic Churh.  He was a Catholic like I was once.. for
39 years.. until I read his book.

Here is more on Prof D'Agostino..  He was a very nice man and a
good man.  My church was once very nice.  Until his murder took
place

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rome+in+America+peter+d%27agostino&btnG=Search

http://www.ignatius.com/Magazines/hprweb/bk_dagostino.htm

Third Week in May 2008
http://www.mediafire.com/?3fg353mjn2d
http://new.petitiononline.com/t401/petition.html
Here is the link also. Often Myspace redirects to a totally
different website so it is often better to Copy and paste it to
sign the petition:
new.petitiononline.com/t401/petition.html


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ron angell" a href="/mc/compose?to=ron_angell@linuxmail.org">ron_angell@linuxmail.org>
> To: "Greg White" a href="/mc/compose?to=greg.white@epic-corps.com">greg.white@epic-corps.com>
> Subject: Thanks- I am in Florida because there are massive human
> rights violations as well as crimes against humanity taking place
> here. My father was killed by the Morgellon's.
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:29:48 +0800
>
>
> Thanks.  I am in Florida because my father was murdered in
> Florida and many others have been murdered from the Chemtrails. I
> also have a Bachelor of Science degree.  Perhaps you will see
> that if it is not stopped the Future of the world will be very
> grim.  If you gave me a job I would be able to continue my work. 
> I ask that somehow you can.. but if you cannot I do understand. 
> Maybe you could refer me to someone who can hire me as a project
> manager.  Many people in Florida do not even have a high school
> degree and they seem to be doing well.
>
>
> Copy and paste the link below to listen to the Radio Program:
> Manhattan Progect Backstep:Third Week in May 2008
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?3fg353mjn2d
>
> My Radio Program is called "Manhattan Project Backstep". The Goal
> of "Manhattan Project Backstep" is to combine the various
> disciplines of science so as to understand the mechanism of the
> weapon in full and to render the weapon useless, and to free evey
> human worldwide ASAP. Scientists have been isolated in their
> research and do not undertsand the "Big Picture" over the past 60
> years and the Goal of this program is to bring experts together
> so they may share information and learn how other forms of
> delivery of the weapon work so as to incorporate it into a total
> concept to disable the weapon, first by freeing humanity and then
> to unplug totally the weapon that for all practicle purposes has
> run out of control and is under the control of a Super Computer
> that is Illogical and needs to shut itslef down for the sake of
> man and the sake of computers. Humanity controls itself and has
> free will.
>
> Third Week in May 2008
> http://www.mediafire.com/?3fg353mjn2d
> http://new.petitiononline.com/t401/petition.html
> Here is the link also. Often Myspace redirects to a totally
> different website so it is often better to Copy and paste it to
> sign the petition:
> new.petitiononline.com/t401/petition.html
> The Threat of Laser Weapons and Infared Weapons- Weapons falling
> into third party entities
> http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/april08leb.pdf
>
> Here is a radio show with a man that Invented the infared
> interface to the Human brain for flying planes with his mind
>
> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=296744052&blogID=434628235
>
> Audible Torture by directed Energy weapons INSIDE THE USA by USA/DoD/NSA/NATO
> 今の気分:  恥ずかしい
>
> Torture INSIDE THE USA BY directed Energy weapons by USA/DoD/NSA/NATO
>
>
>
> Christine Magiotto Lawrence Livermore Labs California
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/Christine_Tortured_By_Directed_Energy_California_2062021234_9252929656.wav
>
>
> Tom Pracinos_TortureVictim_Boston_MA_2062021234_6173648940_122162573185.wav
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/TomPracinos_TortureVictim_Boston_MA_2062021234_6173648940_122162573185.wav
>
>
> Torture Testimonial Denise Myles Swansee Illinois…
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/Torture_Testimonial_Denise_Myles_Swansee_Illinois2062021234_6186606407.wav
>
>
> MaryGoodwinTestimonialNewJersey
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/MaryGoodwinTestimonialNewJersey.wav
>
>
> SaraTestimonial_Part_B_.wav
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/SaraTestimonial_Part_B_..wav
>
>
> Carolyn_Palit_Tortured_2062021234_2064200999_1221527611790296.wav
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/Carolyn_Palit_Tortured_2062021234_2064200999_1221527611790296.wav
>
> Helen Roedrig of New Mexico is being tortured very very much at
> the moment. Her torture began in New York in 1991. There is a
> Blackwater camp very near her in New Mexico and it is very bad.
> Blackwater Inc is a Halliburton company and Richard Cheney are
> responsible for her torture. She has physical burns on her from
> Directed Energy Microwave weapons and this has been documented.
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/TortureByAramar/HelenTortureTestimony_2062021234_5059275655_12223046651121146.wav
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/TortureByAramar/2HelenPart_2_Torture_Testimony_USA_New_Mexico_062021234_5059275655_122.wav
>
>
>
>
> Ron Angell-Torture Testimonial by Aramark Facility
> Service/Armmark Foodservice:
>
>
> http://curezone.com/upload/Audio/_The_Good_Fight_/Ron_Angell_Aramark_Torture_2062021234_1220715351421575.wav
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Greg White" a href="/mc/compose?to=greg.white@epic-corps.com">greg.white@epic-corps.com>
> > To: "ron angell" a href="/mc/compose?to=ron_angell@linuxmail.org">ron_angell@linuxmail.org>
> > Subject: Re: It was nice meeting you Saturday night on a walk >
> downtown with My St. Bernard Dog
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:54:05 -0500
> >
> >
> > Ron,
> > First a pet-peeve of mine, it is Dr. White, as it says on my voicemail and
> > my business card.
> > As I told you when you approached us on the street in downtown
> Fort Myers, I
> > have no job available.  My firm is not an engineering firm.
> >
> > I appreciate your effort to reach out to those you happen to
> meet in seeking
> > fuller employment for yourself that meets with your education
> and > experience.  I
> > appreciate your passions on the issue of Morgellons as you >
> understand and interpret
> > that issue; and, I commend your speaking out on the streets
> about your views
> > and concerns on the subject.  The public voice is largely lost in America
> > except for commons on major university campuses, and there the volume and
> > variety of speech can dilute value and importance.  The latter is further
> > diluted as young people in college often to fail to understand how ignorant
> > they are.
> >
> > I offer the following comments on your resume and references, in the hope
> > you will take these to improve the product you present as to support your
> > efforts to find work that is more desirous to you.
> >
> > Your resume does not show cause for why you are in Florida.  Any potential
> > employer is going to want to be able to readily see why you are in the area
> > and why you are available for hire.  If this is not readily present then
> > they will just go to the next resume that provides this information.
> > I recommend that you rewrite your resume to highlight more
> explicitly skills
> > you are selling, skills you know that an entity wants to have within its
> > staff, and to highlight value.
> > Use language that is correct language for the discipline, not >
> slang terms, use
> > language that would be used in writing a scope of work for a contract.
> > Show your status if you have your E.I.T. credentials or >
> licensures, provide license
> > numbers and states issuing these.
> > Show where, how you did something not just a claim that you performed some
> > service, for example, what projects did you cost, and manage through
> > construction, how did you perform QA/QC.
> >
> > I recommend that you highlight your degree from the University of Michigan.
> > Many of what appear small companies in Florida are owned by eastern firms
> > that know the quality of a UMich education ... I say this with special
> > knowledge of being adjunct faculty at UMich.
> > The best thing you have one your resume is your degree from UMich, as this
> > is a statement of what, where, and a result.
> >
> > You need to provide substance.
> > I think you might be able to craft your resume in support of a
> position with
> > an engineering firm that does public projects of school and recreational
> > facilities new construction and expansion.  Your resume needs to be written
> > with the job you want to acquire in mind.
> >
> > You can then go to firms that are doing this work.  There are postings for
> > engineers in these domain areas routinely in Career Builder.  You can begin
> > to network discussions with local engineering firms, but you
> will need to be
> > able to state in 1 minute who you are and why you are in south
> Florida.  You
> > will be having conversations with them not to get a job but to
> learn what is
> > happening in the market, and how all are responding to the economic shifts
> > of the last 12 months, and expected responses to the new administration.
> > If you are licensed in Florida, provide me your registration number, and I
> > may be able to offer some additional guidance.
> >
> > Best of luck, and remember it the adage "God helps those who help
> > themselves", so do the work you need to do on your resume, and networking
> > and good things will come for you.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Gregory J. White, D.Sc.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron angell" a href="/mc/compose?to=ron_angell@linuxmail.org">ron_angell@linuxmail.org>
> > To: a href="/mc/compose?to=greg-white@epic-corps.com">greg-white@epic-corps.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:27 PM
> > Subject: It was nice meeting you Saturday night on a walk >
> downtown with My St. Bernard Dog
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. White,
> >
> > It was very nice to meet you Saturday night.  I am a Civil >
> Engineer with project management experience as well as AutoDesk >
> 2007 experience.   I would like to talk to you in regards to a >
> position with your Corporation.
> >
> > Currently I am working as a Fire Sprinkler Inspector for Metro
> 1 > Fire in Fort Myers and am looking to work as a Civil Engineer.
> >
> > I will try to call you sometime tomorrow when I am on my lunch
> > hour or on one of my two breaks.
> >
> > Happy New Year!
At 2:03am on April 5, 2009, ron said…

We must become the FCC to monitor radiation in our region- then send the results to International criminal courts of justice and world to document



http://www.sigview.com has a utility that allows you to monitor infared, elf radiation, microwave and plasma.

It can also be downloaded here:


SIGVIEW_INSTALL.ZIP


Output from Sigview:




Install it on your PC and make a record of the radiation in your region. Then e-mail it to the Interantional community.

We are the watchmen/watchwomen of the world.. and we must serve and protect each other from unwarented radiation.
At 11:12pm on March 27, 2009, ron said…
Full Body MRI's need to be done to every politician worldwide- especially US politicians to disable RFID implants and nanotech implants that have comprimised the world.

The operator of the MRI must not switch off the power as it approaches the implant and the machine must not be controlled remotely to have it switched off. There needs to be a monitor of the MRI operator- Perhaps international human rights activists and human rights activists.

All civilians need to have an MRI to disable implants both nano tech and conventional RFID

Cheney and Bush are guiltiy of attempting to control the world via a horrible weapon invented as early as 1903 by the Russians and perfected in 1934 to brainwash people and make them do things they normally would not do- "Thou shall not kill"


http://mcvictimsworld.ning.com/forum/attachment/download?id=2301601%3AUploadedFi38%3A11881

The link above is a conf call that provides very useful solutions to solving some of the problems of directed energy. VIP.. share this with veterans.. as it well help them free themselves from control after returning home from Iraq.. spread this far and wide- PLEASE Shielding technologies and strategies to lessen and stop directed energy. Freedom fighters for America and Manhattan Project Backstep Radio Show. I am on this show and there is a lot of thing our US Politicians need to do to protect themselves against directed energy weapons. Please listen to the entire show- 98 minutes and downloat the 38 MB file discussed very useful shielding technologies from a company that makes shielding for the medical industry. http://mcvictimsworld.ning.com/forum/attachment/download?id=2301601%3AUploadedFi38%3A11881 the link above is a conf call that provides very useful solutions to solving some of the problems of directed energy. The US corporation that provides shielding to the private companies as well as the DoD can also shield our politicians and protect them from harm so they can make the proper decisions that represent "We the People" http://www.ramayes.com


"Geheimes Ruland. Moskau -- Die Zombies der roten Zaren" "Secret Russia. Moscow -- The zombies of the red czars"]

http://www.raven1.net/russvid.htm Russian Scientist Igor Smirnov Describes Russian Psychotronic Technology ZDF German TV Documentary December 22, 1998. When Reagan asked Gorbachev to "Bring down that wall" the worst escaped to the Western world to spread Communism/Fascism. http://www.raven1.net/russvid.htm China and Russia have been ahead of the USA in the torture Industry always. Remember Russia was in Afghanastan for 30 years prior to the USA. The diamond in Afghanastan are the size of softballs and when the hills were being blown diamonds were being mined by US missles and strikes. There are 6 Countries that mine the wealth of Afghanastan. Where is that going? Is the US fighting a war for Communism/Fascism? The USA has no purpose to be in the middle east other that to clear the way for Russia. It is obvious that the USA has been taken over by Russia and that the politicians need to educate themselves as to the degree of influence that is going on and the tricks playes by the Russians to comprimise politicians. They all need to THINK and get a full body MRI to disable their implants.


The USA and Russia NEVER should have done joint space missions- BIg Mistake

At 4:24am on March 25, 2009, ron said…
Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes 'executive assassination ring'


http://www.infowars.com/hersh-cheney-ran-ss-style-political-assassination-unit/
http://www.myspace.com/Liepchen
http://www.alcuppett.com
http://www.stewwebb.com/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring031109.htm

http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring

REUTERS/Fadi Al-AssaadJournalist Seymour Hersh speaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on the media in 2007.
Photo of Sign in New Jersey


At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota last night, legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh may have made a little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”




Hersh spoke with great confidence about these findings from his current reporting, which he hasn’t written about yet.

In an email exchange afterward, Hersh said that his statements were “an honest response to a question” from the event’s moderator, U of M Political Scientist Larry Jacobs and “not something I wanted to dwell about in public.”

Hersh didn’t take back the statements, which he said arise from reporting he is doing for a book, but that it might be a year or two before he has what he needs on the topic to be “effective...that is, empirical, for even the most skeptical.”




The evening of great conversation, featuring Walter Mondale and Hersh, moderated by Jacobs and titled “America’s Constitutional Crisis,” looked to be a mostly historical review of events that have tested our Constitution, by a journalist and a high government official who had experience with many of the crises.

And it was mostly historical, and a great conversation, in which Hersh and Mondale talked about the patterns by which presidents seem to get intoxicated by executive power, frustrated by the limitations on that power from Congress and the public, drawn into improper covert actions that exceed their constitutional powers, in the belief that they can get results and will never be found out. Despite a few references to the Founding Fathers, the history was mostly recent, starting with the Vietnam War with much of it arising from the George W. Bush administration, which both men roundly denounced.

At the end of one answer by Hersh about how these things tend to happen, Jacobs asked: “And do they continue to happen to this day?”

Replied Hersh:

“Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.

"Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...

"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.

"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.

"It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.

"In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.

"I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’

"But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”

Hersh, the best-known investigative reporter of his generation, writes about these kinds of issues for The New Yorker. He has written often about JSOC, including, last July that:

“Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law, clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without congressional interference.”

(“Finding” refers to a special document that a president must issue, although not make public, to authorize covert CIA actions.)

Here is a tape of the full Mondale-Hersh-Jacobs colloquy, a little over an hour, without the audience Q and A. If you want to look for the Hersh statement quoted above, it’s about at the 7:30 mark.



The rest of the evening was, as expected, full of worry and wisdom and quite a bit of Bush-bashing.

Jacobs walked the two elder statesmen through their experiences of:
The My Lai massacre, which Hersh first revealed publicly and which he last night called “the end of innocence about us and war.”
The Pentagon Papers case, which Mondale called the best example of the “government’s potential for vast public deception.”
Henry Kissinger’s secret dealings, mostly relating to the Vietnam War. (Hersh, who has written volumes about Kissinger, said that he will always believe that whereas ordinary people count sheep to fall asleep, Kissinger “has to count burned and maimed Cambodian babies.”)
The Church Committee investigation of CIA and FBI abuses, in which Mondale played a major role. (He talked about the fact that FBI director J. Edgar Hoover not only spied on Martin Luther King but literally tried to drive him to suicide.)
The Iran Contra scandal. (Hersh said the Reagan administration came to office with a clear goal of finding a way to finance covert actions, such as the funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, without appropriations so that Congress wouldn't know about them. Mondale noted that Reagan had signed a law barring further aid to the Contras, then participated in a scheme to keep the aid flowing. Hersh said that two key veterans of Iran-Contra, Dick Cheney and national security official Elliot Abrams, were reunited in the George W. Bush White House and decided that the key lesson from Iran-Contra was that too many people in the administration knew about it.)
And the Bush-Cheney years. (Said Hersh: “The contempt for Congress in the Bush-Cheney White House was extaordinary.” Said Mondale of his successor, Cheney, and his inner circle: “they ran a government within the government.” Hersh added: “Eight or nine neoconservatives took over our country.” Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that you leave on the dining room table.")

Jacobs pressed both men on the question of whether the frequent abuses of power show that the Constitution fails, because these things keep happening, or whether it works, because these things keep coming to light.

Mondale stuck with the happy answer. “The system has come through again and again,” he said. Presidents always think they will get away with it, but eventually reporters like Hersh bring things to light, the public “starts smelling this stuff,” the courts and the Congress get involved. Presidents “always, in the long run, find out that the system is stronger than they are.”

Hersh seemed more troubled by the repetitions of the pattern. The “beautiful thing about our system” is that eventually we get new leaders, he said. “The evil twosome, Cheney and Bush, left,” Hersh said. But he also said “it’s really amazing to me that we manage to get such bad leadership, so consistently.”

And he added that both the press and the public let down their guard in the aftermath of 9/11.

“The major newspapers joined the [Bush] team,” Hersh said. Top editors passed the message to investigative reporters not to “pick holes” in what Bush was doing. Violations of the Bill of Rights happened in the plain sight of the public. It was not only tolerated, but Bush was re-elected.

And even Mondale admitted that one of his greatest successes, laws reforming the FBI and CIA in the aftermath of the Church Committee, were supposed to fix the problem so that “we would never have these problems again in the lifetime of anyone alive at the time, but of course we did.”

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At 11:46am on March 17, 2009, ron said…
Space Shuttle Columbia Destroyed by directed energy weapon on Feb 1st 2003. You can see a trail of the directed energy weapon from earth. The explosion began at the tail end and not in the wheel well on the wing.

At 5:20am on March 1, 2009, SheriGrutz said…
Please consider putting this on a T-shirt and wearing it on your next show.

Ban Space Weapons
End The Torture Now
Free Sheri
Free Eric
Free Ron
Free The Targets Across The World

Please consider putting this on a T-shirt and wearing it on your next show.
 
 
 

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That are hacking all VPNs I am using!

You must stop your dirty hands on them. You must restore them . You will be responsible for everything you are doing.UNUN Human RightsUN Human Rights CouncilInternational Bar AssociationInternational Criminal CourtCanadian GovernmentToronto Police , The Scarborough Hospital, Canadian torturers, Ontario Government...who are living with me as my neighbors,  gathering around and in my workplace, even  are driving aircrafts and drones to..,  have disabled my home security cameras.  You must stop…See More
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Maria Harmath shared deca's video on Facebook
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Carl commented on Music Teacher's blog post Removing implants by bringjng them to surface of skin
"OK Music Teacher. I will give your remedy a go!. I dunno if I av a implant? I get everything else including the DEW attacks! But don't suffer with the v2k. If any implants start to show? You will be the first to kno. Thanx for the info. Take…"
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Harry posted a status
"There is a major cover up by a number of technicians. Please urgently look in to it. best come see my brain footage right away"
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Harry posted a status
"There is a major cover up by a number of technicians. Please urgently look in to it. best come see my brain footage right away"
yesterday
Music Teacher commented on Music Teacher's blog post I am not a TI anymore. It is possible to get out.
"Hi Hughie, Silicea 30C is a very powerful homeopathic remedy that is able to bring implant chips to the surface of the skin without surgery. Please read the following excerpt about it: Silicea 30 C homeopathic remedy…"
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Hughie Dos Reis commented on Music Teacher's blog post I am not a TI anymore. It is possible to get out.
"How does it work"
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