THE ARTICLE FROM NY TIMES IS BELOW FOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT IT
Dear doktor Bell , (sorry for my usual bad English first of all)
I did contact you before already , and i understand that i maybe was not clear enough to support the to my only possible logical consistent conclusisions on alien abductions and mind control , but i will do one more effort and i really hope that you will forget all what the entere academic world believes , and use your own pure reason to analyze the connections , put the different possibilities next to one another and see yourself which one is the most consistent and is confirmed by the facts.
I will try to go step by step , in the new york times there was your statement “The extent of the community, Dr. Bell said, poses a paradox to the traditional way delusion is defined under the diagnostic guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association, which says that if a belief is held by a person's "culture or subculture," it is not a delusion. Dr. Bell, whose study was published in the journal Psychopathology, said that it does not suggest all people participating in mind-control sites are delusional, and that a firm diagnosis of psychosis could only be done in person.” And indeed compared to your colleges thanks god this statement was already more nuanced than usual is the case , that psychosis could only be diagnosed by person. Still you keep somehow in the back of your mind that for sure at least some of those people must be delusional, because there is no government beaming voices to peoples head ….fully understandable .
Further you say , and you do know pretty a lot on that thanks god once more compared to many of your colleges :
“Some of those now posting on mind-control sites say they are being remotely "sexually stimulated" by their torturers. Some alien abductees had said similar things. Subsequent research generally showed that those who believed they had been abducted were not psychotic, but suffering from severe memory and sleep problems, or personal traumas, Dr. Bell said.”
What is anyway surprising is the fact indeed that alien abductees on who has been done much more research before than on the relatively new mind control site visitors , are not psychotic. This is the first in fact unexpected and unexplained fact you know about , put it on a paper as point 1 please .
You also very correctly say that the alien abductees are traumatized , and indeed this is another surprising result confirmed by the sceptic community of Harvard , more specifically Mc Nally and Susan Clancy ….also they notice surprising and objectively noticeable trauma s in abductees , but the fact they started from a specific assumption, and they stick with that as fact , leads to not be able to explain the trauma so just ignore it as if it was not there …
Abductees showed surprisingly strong physiological reactions to the tapes of their alien encounters. Their reactions were as great or greater than those of individuals who cannot shake memories of combat, sexual abuse, and other punishing events.
Victims wake up and find themselves paralyzed, unable to move or cry out for help. They see flashing lights and hear buzzing sounds. Electric sensations zing through their bodies, which may rise up in levitation. Aliens with wrap-around eyes, gray or green skin, lacking hair or noses, approach. The abductee's heart pounds violently. There's lots of probing in the alien ship. Instruments are inserted in their noses, navels, or other orifices. It's painful. Sometimes sexual intercourse occurs. Then it's over, after seconds or minutes. The intruders vanish. Victims are back in their own beds and can move again.
McNally, and their colleagues made some tantalizing discoveries. Measurements of sweating, heart rate, and brain waves showed that those claiming to be abductees show the same symptoms of post-traumatic stress syndrome as combat veterans. . Earlier this year, Clancy and McNally reported on another study that found those who recalled childhood sexual abuse or abduction by aliens experience higher rates of sleep paralysis than those who do not make such claims. Strikingly, the first group also scored high on underlying traits of fantasy proneness, paranormal interests and experiences, and inability to relate socially to others
this is of course very human to ignore something they dont understand, but its another unexplained fact , please put this fact on your paper as point 2 (please forgive me my educative sounding attitude , but I am sure of this situation , sure that it fits and know that people have the tendency to ignore whatever results do not confirm the existing paradigm, a mechanism that has been very correctly described by Thomas Kuhn and is indeed a very persistent one.
Now lets move to the next surprising fact that surprised me to see so many did notice the similarities between alien abductees and mind control victims , or targeted individuals., but so little have drawn a pretty obvious conclusion out of it, that both experiences are the same kind of experiences , and even have the same cause .
In the Washington post januari 2007 we can read from mrs Clancy "In her book, Abducted, Harvard psychologist Susan Clancy examines a group that has striking parallels to the TIs: people who believe they've been kidnapped by aliens. The similarities are often uncanny: Would-be abductees describe strange pains, and feelings of being watched or targeted. And although the alleged abductees don't generally have auditory hallucinations, they do sometimes believe that their thoughts are controlled by aliens, or that they've been implanted with advanced technology ] stimulation to their sexual organs (as the TIs describe) or feelings of paranoia.
And precisely the same similarity was mentioned by yourself in the newyork timses about the mind control victims "Some of those now posting on mind-control sites say they are being remotely "sexually stimulated" by their torturers."
Isn’t stimulation to the sexual organs such a specific symptom that its surprising to be present in two distinct groups of people , not know to be associated with any kind of mental disease as is the case for the much more general expression hearing voices .
And on top I can assure you that both communities are usually totally unrelated and do dispute extremely on the cause of the targeting , and as was mentioned in the wp
"..(On the online forum, some TIs posted vociferous objections to the parallel, concerned that the public finds UFOs even weirder than mind control. "It will keep us all marginalized and discredited," one griped.) "
This is finally also the reaction that i get from many ti”s when i compare the two experiences but it do not agree that there is anything discrediting to it , because being targeted with government weapons sounds probably as weird as being abducted by aliens, but the main thing and much more important is that realizing that both experiences are simply just the same, is the start of a big totally consistent picture no matter how unbelievable and surprising it may be. And because i do believe that logical patterns and statistics don’t fail , while humans with beliefs and prejudices do very often, i consequently want to use this strategy to show the big picture of all these unexplained and weird epidemics. Please if you find any inconsistency in my building up of argumentation or the facts, bring it under my attention please.
So lets say , both experiences are so similar , traumatic ( i assure you that mind control victims mainly are traumatized , and suffer indeed from the same sleep deprivation as alien abductees ) , and have in common that thoughts are being controlled , and that is also the case for the mind control victims, its rather thoughts or telepathy than voices ...in other words its the same. And the suspicion of both groups sometimes they are implanted with some device, which is not the case but points to the feeling to be remotely controlled indeed by no matter alien or government technology.
I want to point still to the remark of Walter Bowhard in his lectures with Randy Noblit and Allen sheflin , were he noticed correctly http://www.whale.to/b/bowart6.html Lecture by Authors Walter Bowart, Alan Scheflin, and Randy Noblitt
Walter Boward “I've seen several patterns emerge, and one of them is the Satanic or cult ritual abuse pattern, and the other one's the alien abduction experience,reports from people that report alien abduction experiences, ritual abuse, and the government mind control side of things. And it's very interesting for the similarity, there are so many similarities it looks like one and the same thing,.
Indeed the patterns show the entire picture hidden wel between seemingly unrelated phenomenon’s
If I get to my survey of targeted individuals were in one specific sample a pattern is visible of a sudden rise in incidence in the year 2000, than I suppose that the change this to be coincidental is very small , especially if this patterns shows up in each new sample again and again and indeed this all around the world without that the targets even have knowledge from each others existence,
The question was what year the respondents became aware to be under attack
1980: 2 1.43%
1980: 0 0%
1981: 0 0%
1982: 1 0.71%
1983: 0 0%
1984: 1 0.71%
1985: 2 1.43%
1986: 2 1.43%
1987: 0 0%
1988: 0 0%
1989: 0 0%
1990: 1 0.71%
1991: 1 0.71%
1992: 1 0.71%
1993: 3 2.14%
1994: 2 1.43%
1995: 1 0.71%
1996: 6 4.29%
1997: 6 4.29%
1998: 5 3.57%
1999: 2 1.43%
2000: 4 2.86%
2003: 8 5.71%
2009: 0 0%
Total Responded to this question: 140 96.55%
Indeed in 2000 the incidence rose pretty suddenly , and after 2005 even more, this sample taking is repeatable , please don’t ignore it , its easy to exclude that it’s a mistake.
This sudden rise in incidence all around the world is maybe point tree that you can put on your paper as not just unexplained but nearly contradicting the fact that this problem is an individual one.
But it does not contradict the fact that in case both the alien abduction experience and the mind control targeting experience is the same, a thing that is rather obvious because of the enormous resemblance, and the alien abductees do not suffer from psychosis, also the targeted individual do not suffer from psychosis,
It answers your surprise that this phenomenon challenges the basically criteria of delusion …., in case it is the way I present it its not due to the internet were many can share their “delusions” that the phenomenon does not anymore match the criteria of delusion, it would be even a mistake to adept the DSM criteria of a delusion , because they are still correct; a delusion is not shared with many others of a large community , nor are delusional people while psychotic able to such cooperative social behaviour as one sees in the mind control community .
Maybe still briefly , the third thing that Walter Boward mentions is the satanic ritual abuse experiences that resembles so much and indeed, also this fits into the story perfectly and brings up a scary conclusion of the recovered memory dispute . Just look at the similarities between ritual abuse survivors and alien abductees , and take note of the fact that both groups again have no knowledge of one another , don’t take each others explanation seriously but still ….
California based therapist Gwen Dean noted forty-four parallels between alien abduction and satanic ritual abuse (SRA). Both emerged as widespread phenomena in the late 1970s and early 1980s, both often use hypnosis to recover lost or suppressed memory. Furthermore, the scenarios and narratives offered by abductees and SRA victims feature many similar elements: both are typically said to begin when the experiencer is in their youth; both are said to involve entire families and to occur generationally; the alien examination table is similar to the satanic altar; both phenomena focus on genitals, rape, sexuality and breeding; witnesses often report that the events happen when they are in altered states of consciousness; both phenomena feature episodes of "missing time" when the events are said to occur, but of which the victim has no conscious memory. (Bryan, 138-139)
CHRISTOPHER D. BADER
In the 1980s two different groups emerged that exhibited a strikingly similar combination of the quasi-religious and psychotherapeutic—UFO abductees and ritual-abuse survivors
In the mid-1980s an increasing number of support groups appeared that were centered around so-called UFO abductions. UFO abductees support groups attempt to help people recover repressed memories of victimization at the hands of extraterrestrials. Also in the mid-1980s an increasing number of therapists and support groups focusing on “ritual abuse” began seeking clients/members. Ritual-abuse support groups also attempt to recover repressed memories of past abuses. In this case, the abuse is believed to take place at the hands of secretive, underground, usually Satanic, cults.
Although much has been written about both these movements, little of this research has focused on the members themselves;
Ritual-abuse survivors skew slightly older with an average age of 48 (47.7).
The UFO abductees were slightly younger with an average age of 44 (43.69).
Randy Noblit, a USA therapist who works with sanatic ritual abused people wrote me the following thing : R Noblit : “I mostly work with people who say that they were ritually abused and they are also dissociated. Some of them say that they think they are currently harassed by radio or similar technology, but some of them say there programmed to have this belief by their abuser group, whom they say used radio and radio-like devices during their abuse and programming. “ When I was trying to suggest to him that the memories could be not real or from childhood but simply remotely induced , he carefully rejected this idea with following statement :
2008 Randy Noblitt I try to avoid making judgments about other people's memories and beliefs. I have worked with people who have described what I call ritual abuse. My definition of ritual abuse is similar to what many people also call "trauma based mind control." People who have this problem can often be helped by therapists and my experience has been as a therapist. Best Wishes,
It may also draw your attention that he considers what is called satanic ritual abuse the same thing as trauma based mind control …indeed because content of the memories is less important than the symptoms the trauma and the experience itself of recovering horrifying traumatizing memories in adulthood, just as Christopher Bader noticed average age in his population survey of abductees and ritual survivors is around 45. And indeed this is also the average age of mind control targets, I am myself now 45, and even if the ages differ, middle age is the average age to become mind control victim , not really a typical age to get schizophrenia either.
And now the results of the 2007 extrele abuse survey of which I find that the questions could have been more relevant and all that, and were I miss the question when it started so any search for the evolution of the problem in incidence rate …but ok , still it provides some interesting information .
RESULTS EXTREME ABUSE SURVEY EAS rapports 2007
Microwave abuse12% 04%
Non-lethal weapons abuse 56% 24%
Electronic harassment 50% 12% Sleep deprivation 79% 36% Auto-immune disorders 48%
Sleep problems 93% 75%
Migraine headaches 66% 38%
Fibromyalgia 31% 18%
Posttraumatic stress disorder 93% 70%
Unusual fears 90% 67%
Thyroid problems 31% 20%
Cancer 08% 04%
Seizures with organic basis 27% 16%
The rapports of remote weapon abuse no matter if it is called microwave , non lethal weapons or electronic harassment , no idea why this question is asked tree times when it’s the same in fact , are very high , just as Randy mentioned that half of his patients rapport remote technology
And all the symptoms are so typical for mind control victims and alien abductees, the autoimmune disorders, Fibromyalgia, sleep deprivation ect, the list is longer I just chose the most prevalent points. Also here is often reported to suspect to have implants …
Why the memories are so same and such different subjects but such same evolution? I am convinced that Karla turner did guess it correctly , they are NOT implanted in childhood , but at the moment they come up , together with the fear the trauma and the virtual reality ….they are indeed purely artificial , and that explains of course why the trauma is so real , because the experience is so real, not matter it is virtual , Susan Clancy never even considered this idea, is it so extremely impossible ?
I would enormously like to hear your reaction on this idea , because I know its sounds incredible but at the same time I know its correct and I can very hard estimate how this sound to someone who never looked at it this way and is not aware of it …., it is the purpose that it goes unnoticed and looks unrelated …and I believe by the way that the morgellons disease is another part of this, just as chronic fatigue and golf war syndrome, multiple personality disorder and the highly rising supernatural experiences and demonic possessions and rapports of voodoo , it is meant to sound as weird as this to go unnoticed .
If you check briefly the main conclusions of the rather serious alien investigators (from whom John Mack was a remarkable man his dead in 2004 was a great loss to the community) you will each time again find the same essential elements that come back and point just as targeted individuals , and satanic abuse survivors to “technology” . How can that be so similar ?
Kind greetings from Belgium and apologies for my usual bad English ,
In Memory of Dr. Karla 'Kandy' Turner - Abduction Researcher
Karla Turner A former college instructor who held a doctorate in Old English Studies from the University of North Texas, Turner had authored three books on the abduction phenomenon, *Into the Fringe (1992), *Taken (1994), *Masquerade of Angels (1994).
Two traits, characterized alien behaviour above all: deceitfulness and cruelty. (During encounters, they control our perceptions. They can implant false memories. From childhood, they manipulate us physically, spiritually, and sexually. They create virtual reality scenarios that are absolutely real to the abductees. ) http://www.karlaturner.org/articles/JohnChambers_eulogy.html
"Turner cited many cases pointing to a psychic technology that enabled the aliens to make us see whatever they wanted us to see. They could create virtual reality scenarios at will, she was certain. The abductees took home from their abduction experiences as memories whatever the aliens wanted them to remember. Even what was revived under hypnosis might only be a screen memory."
By Colleen Johnston
Out of this group, another majority are experiencing massive trauma in conjunction with their abductions-- anything from being mind controlled with disaster images that are being forced into their minds by artificial means, seeing loved ones tortured if they do not cooperate, seeing what appears to be clones of themselves, forced to hold alien/hybrid children, themselves forced into submitting to painful experimentations, even being given a deadly disease for non cooperation. Many female abductees are reporting, autoimmune disorders like Fibromyalgia or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome as well as a sudden onset of female urinary tract infections and a host of female problems which eventually lead in some cases to hysterectomy. If the creatures creating this type of misery for their captives were here on a peaceful mission to help humanity, why does this sort of abusive treatment happen with the same style of administration reminiscent of the Nazi German concentration camp doctors? I have come to believe something is more than amiss; something sinister is happening to the abduction populace without regard for the abductee. Why us and why now, someone might ask.
The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships (2000), Eve Lorgen
A small but growing number of aware abductees who began to realize that some of their love relationships were engineered by the aliens who abducted them.” “It became clear that the alien abductors be they Grey aliens, reptilians, human military or other unknown species, were heavily manipulating their "chosen ones" down to the very detail of their love and sex lives! These are not normal love relationships where one or the other partner simply wants to break up. These are clearly orchestrated and manipulated with full paranormal features.”
Canadian, Sunday, Nov. 9, 2008. EVE LORGEN
In order to have a thorough grasp of the hypothesis I have suggested regarding the aliens’ true motives, once must understand the basics of human mind control, sexuality, divine potential and spirituality. From a simplistic standpoint, the exploitation of humans via mind control can be achieved by:
1Removing the person from their normal environment of influence; 2. Deprive them of sleep; 3. Pain if they disagree, pleasure if they agree; 4. Change in biochemistry; 5. Trauma
The Matrix Hive Mind Manipulators By Eve Lorgen M.A.© 1999
Identifying Mind Control and Abductions By Eve Lorgen, M.A. © 2000
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“Maintaining Secrecy whether we are dealing with extraterrestrials or a nefarious group of powerful human beings, there appears to be a disinformation campaign underway. This has been orchestrated to mislead abductees - and therefore the research community and the public - as to what the truth is. In order to take the focus away from the true agenda, the aliens may want us to remember seeing "humans," and the humans may want us to remember seeing "aliens”
Who Are We Seeing? The military personnel...
a. may actually be aliens using the techniques of camouflage and screen memories to deceive abductees into believing their government is involved.
b. may be part of a secret agency or military team that is involved in retrieving information from abductees about the aliens.
c. may be working with some of the aliens.
d. may be Hybrids - a genetic combination or cross between humans and aliens, who wear military-type uniforms to confuse the abductee.²
e. may be part of a secret human agency or military team abducting humans in order to create or increase the impression that aliens abduct humans; or to sow confusion regarding the possible presence and activities of aliens on Earth; or for some other reason beyond our current understanding.”
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Why do I continue to research, under terrible duress, the most important subject in our universe? It’s clear. What could be more compelling than identifying what I call a “master control system” that defies all locks, law enforcement, physics, and governments, and last but not least, human rights; or identifying an alien-organized operation possessing such technical supremacy that they can hide in plain sight. It's a force that can delude people into refusing to believe in their existence. At the same time, alien manipulative “overlord ship” is altering the course of human life.
In a lengthy article, Martin Cannon makes the admittedly speculative argument that memories of alien abductions might in fact have been created in the "abductees" by a secret government mind control program, such as MKULTRA
by Martin Cannon “The Controllers” released circa 1990
Maxwell Brierley Burns : UK. http://www.abduct.com/features/f10.php
Feature Articles: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Alien Abductions
Is there a connection between Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) and the alien abduction scenario? Investigator Max Burns shares his thoughts and initial findings. Marianne Friedman, whom I felt would follow in Karla Turner's footsteps, died soon after she was abducted and interrogated during a dream, in what appeared to be a joint military/ alien base. She was tortured, and required medical treatment and future surgery on her neck due to her inhumane treatment. She was a warrior, and uncovered so much information about the human mind and the use and function of 'implants.'
She was intuitive, and no novice to the aliens' medical agendas. She could not discern whether the aliens had used illusions and mind control to make her believe the human military was involved, and admitted she remembered reptilian alien forms wearing American military garb, confusing the memories. Now we will never know. Following the alien intimidation to break her willful resistance, her beloved dog suddenly died of cancer. She followed shortly thereafter—dead from a sudden brain attack at the age of 47.
ABOUT THE POPULAR INVESTIGATORS WHO FOCUS ON ALIENS AS SUCH THIS
Some researchers (especially Budd Hopkins and David Michael Jacobs) have been accused of excluding, minimising or suppressing testimony or data which do not fit a certain paradigm for the phenomenon.
Budd Hopkins (born on June 15, 1931 in Wheeling, West Virginia) is a central figure in abduction phenomenon and related UFO research. He is also a painter and sculptor of note. Official Website http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/budd_hopkins.html
Budd Hopkins is a world-renowned artist, author, and pioneer UFO abduction researcher. Having investigated well over 700 cases, he now heads the Intruders Foundation, a nonprofit, scientific research and support organization. http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/witness_intimidation.html
David Michael Jacobs is an American historian who is prominently known in the field of Ufology for his research into alien abductions and UFOs.
Employment David M. Jacobs, PhD, is Associate Professor of History at Temple University specializing in twentieth century American history and culture.
still this unexplained syndrom , same time , same symptom, same increase , coincidence?
Persistent genital arousal disorder (also known as persistent sexual arousal syndrome or PSAS) 2001
“Awareness in Japan of PSAS -- which was first documented by Dr. Sandra Leiblum in the United States five years ago -- is growing, especially in the blogsphere, where it is being called Iku Iku byo. Hideo Yamanaka, a doctor at the Toranomon Hibiya Clinic in Tokyo says the disease can be debilitating.”
Persistent genital arousal disorder (also known as persistent sexual arousal syndrome or PSAS) It was first documented by Dr. Sandra Leiblum in 2001, only recently characterized as a distinct syndrome in medical literature.
Targeted Individuals and sexual genital attacks
Mind Games in de Washington Post Januari 2007.
“Both male and female TIs report a variety of "attacks" to their sexual organs. "My testicles became so sore I could barely walk," Girard says of his early experiences. Others, however, report the attacks in the form of sexual stimulation, including one TI who claims he dropped out of the seminary after constant sexual stimulation by directed-energy weapons. Susan Sayler, a TI in San Diego, says many women among the TIs suffer from attacks to their sexual organs but are often embarrassed to talk about it with outsiders."It's sporadic, you just never know when it will happen," she says. "A lot of the women say it's as soon as you lay down in bed -- that's when you would get hit the worst. It happened to me as I was driving, at odd times."
What made her think it was an electronic attack and not just in her head? "There was no sexual attraction to a man when it would happen. That's what was wrong. It did not feel like a muscle spasm or whatever," she says. "It's so . . . electronic
Sharing Their Demons on the Web By SARAH KERSHAW November 13, 2008
Sharing their demons on the web
Vaughan Bell, a British psychologist who has researched the effect of the Internet on mental illness, first began tracking sites with reports of mind control in 2004. In 2006 he published a study The extent of the community, Dr. Bell said, poses a paradox to the traditional way delusion is defined under the diagnostic guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association, which says that if a belief is held by a person's "culture or subculture," it is not a delusion. Dr. Bell, whose study was published in the journal Psychopathology, said that it does not suggest all people participating in mind-control sites are delusional, and that a firm diagnosis of psychosis could only be done in person.
And the users of some sites have found the support of Jim Guest, a Republican state representative in Missouri, who wrote last year to his fellow legislators calling for an investigation into the claims of those who say they are being tortured by mind control. "I've had enough calls, some from credible people — professors — being targeted by nonlethal weapons," Mr. Guest said in a telephone interview, adding that nothing came of his request for a legislative investigation. "They become psychologically affected by it. They have trouble sleeping at night." He added: "I believe there are people who have been targeted by this. With this equipment, you have to test it on somebody to see if it works."
The mind-control sites remind some experts of the accounts of those claiming to have been abducted by aliens in the 1970s and '80s. One person's story begat another until many insisted they had had virtually identical experiences of being taken onto space ships by silvery sloe-eyed creatures. Some of those now posting on mind-control sites say they are being remotely "sexually stimulated" by their torturers. Some alien abductees had said similar things. Subsequent research generally showed that those who believed they had been abducted were not psychotic, but suffering from severe memory and sleep problems, or personal traumas, Dr. Bell said.