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Regarding Deepthought´s mind-reading Satellite.

I brought up the subject of Deepthought deleting comments on Newsvine right at the outset when exchanging messages with Symore Thanu. I asked why all TI comments related to the technology were deleted, but the fact is that he´s defended Deepthought as if he were some kind of God throughout this whole saga. They were off topic he claimed. Deepthought held a technical discussion on the Newsvine forum, which is why he deleted so many comments for being irrelevant. Some may have been off topic, but certainly not all. How were they all off topic when some directly relate to the capabilities of the satellite? I went over the forum content again on the relevant Deepthought sites, and these were no more off topic than that discussed by some others. The implications of mind control were readily discussed in a different setting, ie., that of mind controlling the enemy. And these were not deleted. What then is the difference? Whether mind controlling in a military environment or in a civilian environment, there is in principle no difference since the context in both cases is the same, as regards the technology being dealt with. The main difference is the fact that one is legal and the other most certainly is not. It just struck me as odd that he should make such a clear-cut distinction between the two. He readily discusses one, and promptly deletes comments related to the other, on what is effectively the same topic. He could even have politely stated he wasn’t willing to discuss the implications for civilians. But that might have affected future strategies outlined below. If he hadn’t deleted them, they would obviously have remained visible on the webpage. So taking Deepthought´s overall attitude to targeted individuals into account, I sent him a final message at the time suggesting he must be either a perp or an agent. Predictably, it got deleted without a reply.

Symore Thanu-Deepthought

Next, Symore Thanu provided several other links to related sites on Peacepink which were all without exception related to Newsvine and Deepthought´s revelations, but no others. I began to get suspicious and went over some of Deepthought´s webpages meticulously. I noticed something really strange. Deepthought and Symore Thanu make a couple of basic errors in their texts, which are common to both. I noticed that they sometimes both confuse two simple grammar items in their texts. Granted that many others are guilty of the same errors. But here are supposedly two extremely well-educated and intelligent individuals, who one would expect not to make such basic errors. And when they both make the same two basic errors, one has to think there is something really strange going on. I studied discourse analysis long enough to be able to spot any significance there might be in such occurrences which crop up in a written text. There were remarkable similarities in their writing styles as well, which drew my attention. Another point which captured my attention is that Deepthought made a comment months ago on his own site stating that 90% of TIs were illegitimate being just mentally ill, etc. Symore Thanu makes the same claim on Peacepink, but when I searched for Deepthought´s original comment on the same thread on Newsvine again recently on his webpage, I noted that it had been deleted. I WAS THEN CONVINCED THEY WERE ONE AND THE SAME PERSON.

Symore Thanu also made a faux pas in his first reply to me by writing ¨……TIs as you like to call them¨, so I responded by stating ¨I call US TIs and not THEM¨ with the implication being, are you not a TI then? He avoided all reference to the point in his next reply. How could he become a member of a network for targeted individuals and not state at the outset that he himself is NOT a target? As it happens, he has since admitted he is not a Targeted Individual, but I had to prompt him by asking him directly. His response was:

¨¨I'm not a TI. I'm just following DeepThought's work and that of some others. I think I have a solid enough grasp of the principles to attempt to determine how wide-spread this actually is. As I said, 90% is pure bullshit, but it should be easy to spot the distinctly artificial amongst the outpouring of emotion. The only way to fake that material, is to have inside knowledge, which acts as a good marker for people to track down when this comes to a head¨¨.

His mission is to determine how widespread the problem is. So why is that necessary if he already knows that 90% is bullshit? Then he refers to, ¨¨::::::Deepthought´s work and that of some others¨¨. Which others? He never mentioned the names of any others, nor did he provide a single link to any other sites. Yet he´s supplied no end of links to Deepthought sites. That´s because he is Deepthought. Deepthought alias Symore Thanu has come out with some truly controversial points and some extraordinary sweeping statements in his messages recently. He shared the following with members of Peacepink and visitors alike.

(1) He claims that the only form of covert harassment which takes place relates to government experiments carried out by way of this magical satellite, which can presumably read an individual´s thoughts from an incalculable distance, coupled with artificial intelligence and synthetic telepathy. But he can provide no reliable reference material and no documentation. Or does it perhaps relate to top-secret information that has just been declassified on Newsvine? Allegedly, DEWs are not a part of the harassment agenda either. No surprises there. His main objective on Peacepink is not to assess TIs, but to convince us that DEWs are not being used on civilians. But that is a load of utter crap. Think about it. There exists the simple microwave, and then there exists the super weapon which was used in Iraq, which I’m sure you’ve seen on video. What about the space in between? The basic microwave has been in use for about half a century if not more. So reaching the stage of developing that super weapon deployed in Iraq must have required quite a lot of experimentation over the various ranges. And then there are other DEW weapons which must have been developed in between. Obviously, there are other levels of microwaves out there, and these will not just be simple ones that are restricted to use in a laboratory setting. Yes, there are other forms of directed energy, but I suspect that sophisticated microwave weapons are in existence that we know nothing about. I refer to a lower range than the beasts used in Iraq obviously. Alone Symore Thanu´s attitude to them gives much away.

(2) He claims that gang stalking does not exist because no staff is required on the ground, with the kind of thought reading technology he outlined. I explained in my last message how he contradicted himself claiming stalkers were made redundant by the technology, but yet later claimed stalking only ever existed in the minds of even genuine TIs.

The Home Office document I presented actually showed there were over 2 million in the UK in the year 2000, although they are all categorised as just stalking and not subdivided. Hence, the figures are blurred as they stand. However, the Home Office would never break the statistics down to subdivide stalking groups, and thus highlight organized staking. Symore Thanu alias Deepthought knows that, but as we have seen, he´ll use any argument at all in his bizarre repertoire, irrespective of whether it´s valid or not. He just keeps repeating there was no breakdown of the figures, so no reference was made of organized stalking. Neither is there any reference to O. S. in the press or on TV for the same reasons. The connection is obvious.

(3) He claims that Deepthought is untouchable, in response to my claim that nobody would be allowed to discuss freely, information on the latest satellite technology which would still have to be classified. My claim is that governments may turn a blind eye, as they on occasions appear to do, if taking legal action could backfire on them. However, stating that any individual is over and above the law is absolute rubbish. Then when asked how he can possibly have knowledge of the latest technology available to intelligence agencies, he implied that physics limits further progress and Deepthought must have already exhausted all possibility of further advances, or words to that effect.

(4) He claims that 90% of the countless websites related to gang stalking and electronic harassment on the Internet are bogus sites planted there by NATO and related agencies. Moreover, with respect to governments, he forecasts widespread prosecutions are imminent and serious jail time will be handed down on both sides of the Atlantic, for experimenting on innocent citizens illegally with satellites and artificial intelligence. According to him, it´s going to get really messy, really quick. It could be something on the level of The Nuremberg Trials.

(5) He claims that the objective in all this is to create a subculture of nutters.

(6) He claims that whistleblowers are unreliable as regards relevant information, and must indeed be part of the conspiracy. This of course includes Julianne Mckinney, although the idea came as an afterthought, judging by the timing of his comments.

(7) He has made it abundantly clear in more than one message that corporates aren’t involved. The mainstream media on both sides of the Atlantic are owned by just a few corporates, so who is he kidding? They play a part too.


(8) One of his tactics is a psychological ploy whereby he continually overuses vocabulary such as mental illness, psychosis, schizophrenia, delusion, connecting unrelated events and ¨¨everyone being in on it¨. As can be seen by his comments, he introduces this vocabulary into his text even when it´s completely off topic and out of context. I present logical arguments to counter his illogical claims, but he throws in the aforementioned expressions repeatedly to distract from the real point and brainwash readers into thinking the whole issue surrounds mental instability. That, after all, is the official propaganda line in any case. If he eventually manages to scatter this terminology across the whole forum, it´ll effectively work as a form of suggestive persuasion, similar to that used in advertising and related mind control. Whilst one has to agree that the various terms referred to concerning mental instability are relevant to a degree, why does he constantly overuse them to completely obscure the real issue?

He admits that TIs exist but would have preferred to come on this site and state that they didn’t. He had to make a concession of course and that´s why he settled for a figure as low as 10%. He also plumped for 10% as regards the percentage of reliable websites. The remaining 90% are allegedly bogus sites put up by NATO and other agencies. So 10% of TIs have 10% of reliable website information to share. Rather a neat little package to put on the table at Peacepink, don’t you think? That wouldn´t have been enough though. He had to offer more concessions because he had to explain how the 10% of genuine TIs actually get targeted. So then we had this magical thought-reading satellite, but which is a relatively gentle technology compared to that suggested in books like Satellite Terrorism in America. There are also body assaults, including sexual assaults to account for, but those are apparently inflicted by artificial intelligence. Moreover, anytime he gets cornered, he explains the problem away by referring to artificial intelligence which helps him weave his way out again. That´s an ongoing ploy. So gang stalking and the use of DEWs are the main things that he has to erase from our minds, and he´s worked hard at it. The overall ploy is called Limited Hangout. I posted a blog on this site recently explaining how it works but nobody seemed interested. It´s spy jargon, and it means the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details by distracting the public. The public is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the real issue further. That´s the principle behind it. Here´s the link again.

Some of his Most Remarkable Claims:


¨¨There are no "gang stalking victims". The system he describes can introduce psychosis which results in unconnected events being related in a person's mind. From the mindset of a victim, it may look like everyone, or a selection of people, are "in on it", but it is merely random coincidence. You do not need any staff on the ground when you have access to the information from their brain and the capability to create a psychosis. Such activity is made redundant by the system¨¨.

¨¨Thus, the technology itself make real gang stalking a bit pointless. Not to mention the resources and exposure factors, especially since SIGINT staff are analysts not field operatives¨¨.


What then has happened to those millions of foot soldiers who have suddenly become redundant?

¨¨There was never any, its a well known symptom of paranoid persecution, even with real TI's. Its a symptom of an illness, not a real event.¨¨

Oops! But which activity has become redundant then, if there were never any stalkers? I´d say it is he who suffers from mental illness.

On Julianne McKinney


¨¨One thing that stood out was the rotation. In her mind, she had assumed that the DEW was like a laser and had to be locked on to specific regions. That's very interesting. At a technical level, it does not work that way, but it is a psychological trick employed by the A.I. As the A.I. can stimulate pressure in real-time, it has a sequence that will give the impression of a "targeting system" by slowly moving, or turning off and on, a sense of pressure. What its really doing is humiliating you and finding it funny. Whilst you are busy rotating, attempting to discern a direction or delay, you are at the same time spinning around like an idiot. It also feeds into creating a malleable psyche, that is they are leading your behavior or "suggesting" your actions¨¨.


As regards losing the microwave signal on turning around, I find it more than strange that the former US military intelligence agent and the activist both made the same observation, even although there is no connection between them.

¨¨It depends on what they have been reading, or heard¨¨.

Oops again! Which is it to be then? A. I. or disinformation?

More on Julianne McKinney (Before he claimed whistleblowers spread disinformation)

His comments:

¨¨I listened to her talk and the technology descriptions are bogus. It seems like she is basing things she has heard. Why install cameras when you can see what the target sees? There is an argument that influencing a portion of the population is quite possible. Whilst most likely not the current mission statement, these things follow the winds of politics.

Ignoring the technical information and the mildly paranoid, grandiose, thoughts, I'd say there is something there. There is certain information that rings true¨¨.


¨¨It looks like she has incorporated interim conclusions of how the technology functions into her worldview. If you read what I said earlier, about getting a person suggestible by leading their behavior, this is the mechanism by which information is fed into the worldview. She felt the motion, assumed the needed to "lock on", took some basic facts on how a "lock on" could occur and weaved together a history¨¨.

¨¨She could be genuine, or she has accidentally hypnotized herself whilst in a mildly psychotic or sleep deprived state¨¨.

(Following later claims whistleblowers spread disinformation

His comments:

¨¨Even a single case of a TI would cause major embarrassment, not to mention a wide range of legal problems. It is therefore imperative to have control over the flow of information. If you examine the sources of information, you will see that the primary sources for the technology are former defense personnel. Given they are bound by national security laws, do you not think it is strange that they can make publications and radio broadcasts?
How about now that you know that the majority of technical descriptions are bogus?¨¨

¨¨These people would not be "whistleblowers", they would be defined as criminals bordering on being a traitor. Of course their statements are bullshit, or they'd be in jail. In the defense world, it is impossible to keep a secret, so they borrowed a tactic from the Soviet GRU which is to surround the real information with bullshit. The GRU had an entire department dedicated to it as does the NSA¨¨.

¨¨So, if anyone describes themselves as a "former defense employee or contractor of the US DoD" and they are "whistleblowing" about a particular classified technology, they are either stooges or never had security clearance to anything of importance¨¨.

Oops! That was a rather late call suggesting that whistelblowers are also in on it. It now seems everyone is in on it. I´d like to know which websites constitute the 10% genuine ones. He never did give us a clue on that one.

Words of self praise for the uber-genius and untouchable Deepthought

¨¨The technology described is too detailed, too multi-discipline for a single person to invent and describe. What is more likely, that DeepThought is an uber-genius, outstripping specialists worldwide, or he has direct knowledge of the technology?¨¨

¨¨Articles such as those published by DeepThought would be really problematic as they outline something that can be tested, everything else is debatable.¨¨

¨¨They're bothered alright. I'm sure every main intelligence agency worth its salt has been to DeepThought's page. They're obviously not in a position to do much about it. What's done is done, they would only confirm it and then risk DeepThought explaining to everyone what is being done with the tech and having the credibility of his arrest/detainment.¨¨

¨¨That would open a can of worms and possibly lead to mass arrests of intelligence staff and technicians, even politicians. It would certainly cost jobs, extensive lawsuits, damage credibility and shake the very foundations of major intelligence organizations. It would be like the Nazi's and the Nuremberg trials¨¨.


¨¨I'm just wondering if some of our DEW victims are getting hit by reflected radar signals accidentally.¨¨

Anyway, whatever the case, it still wouldn´t account for the body assaults, speaking for myself. There may be a minority of people who live close to aerodromes or docks who are vulnerable, but I would imagine that to be relatively few. I most certainly don’t fall into such a category.

¨¨I'm sure that in some cases, an undiagnosed source of pain could be correlated to random effects of radar and woven into a worldview. Also, you do not need to live near a radar, just that the emissions can be focused on your location in some manner that is physically possible¨¨.

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A limited hangout is a public relations or propaganda technique that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details. It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out. In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.

A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.

Victor Marchetti wrote: "A 'limited hangout' is spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting - sometimes even volunteering - some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."

Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is synonymous with and sometimes called Black propaganda. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or spreading malicious rumors and fabricated intelligence. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.

In espionage or military intelligence, disinformation is the deliberate spreading of false information to mislead an enemy as to one's position or course of action. In politics, disinformation is the deliberate attempt to deflect voter support of an opponent, disseminating false statements of innuendo based on the candidates vulnerabilities as revealed by opposition research. In both cases, it also includes the distortion of true information in such a way as to render it useless.

Disinformation techniques may also be found in commerce and government, used to try to undermine the position of a competitor. It is an act of deception and blatant false statements to convince someone of an untruth. Cooking-the-books might be considered a disinformation strategy that led to the Sarbanes–Oxley Act.

Unlike traditional propaganda and Big Lie techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions.

Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can effect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with a lot of easily-disproved false claims.

A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout).

The Cold War made disinformation a recognized military and political tactic. Military disinformation techniques were described by Vladimir Volkoff.

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This is the only known interview with Julianne McKinney, a former US army intelligence officer.

She became a member of the Association of National Security Alumni, an organization of former intelligence officers dedicated to exposing excesses by the US intelligence services.

Either of these links should be OK.

I have summed up the 10 most relevant points she makes in the interview which I pasted below.

1) Which organizations are responsible?

It´s difficult to pinpoint everything at this stage on the US government exclusively. The pattern and protocols of surveillance and harassment are virtually identical on a global scale, so someone is overseeing the entire activity. The US government is obviously complicit because otherwise these operations wouldn’t be allowed to exist. Why, it´s hard to say. Whether it´s just for testing electronic weapons systems for future use under combat conditions or whether later there´s a holocaust in the offing, it´s hard to say.

2) How is targeting accomplished?

In order to target someone, it requires that that person be put under surveillance to establish their personality traits and their capacity to interrelate with people, their capacity for corruption or non-corruption and even their religion factors into it. They are singled out for preliminary stages of harassment which would include gang stalking, entry into their private homes or apartment followed by gradually intensified and ultimately extremely intensified electronic harassment. This is the pattern that has unfolded over, and over, and over.

3) What are the criteria for selecting a target?

Quite a number of the women who are singled out appear to be too independent, perhaps too intelligent. They tend to live alone and pursue professional careers. There´s a heavy predominance of these types of women in the TI community. Men are in a smaller proportion and seem to be those who have a propensity to fly off the handle. They have a sense of self-esteem and pride that seems to invite targeting. There is a curious predominance of a certain lack of religion amongst TIs, as opposed to a certain predominance of a particular religion amongst the perpetrators.

What about numbers of targets?

4) The persons that have realized what´s going on are just a drop in the bucket. The persons that she has seen being targeted are completely unaware of what´s going on so the persons complaining of it are just the tip of the iceberg. So she would say this is very, very widespread but she can´t under the circumstances come up with any figures.

What happens with the information gathered on a target?

5) It appears that the perpetrators don’t do anything with the information gathered on a target once they get it, apart from to establish a harassment protocol which will follow that targeted individual for the rest of his or her life.

Why do they do it?

6) Part of the objective is obviously to test the latest and greatest of electronic weaponry, and other forms of technologies. A part of it is to control and choreograph those who are involved in these harassment operations on the dispensing end. And it would appear that those being targeted are simply objects, who she sees as ultimately being disposable. In other words, she thinks that once full control is established over a major percentage of the population, and enough of the population is silenced and unwilling to stick their necks out, we would inevitably be heading towards a HOLOCAUST.

7) What means to they use to lock into the target in his or her own home?

In order to target a person in their own home, they first of all need to be able to see that person. There are plenty of technologies available that allow for the imaging of a person who might be sitting in a chair for example. Using infrared imagery techniques for example, they can capture your image by monitoring the concentration of heat emanating from your body. Using certain acoustical frequencies, they can detect mass. And using sophisticated computer software, they can convert those images to likenesses on computers, which conceivably could be used in a software program that would be connected to an electronic weapon´s system. Devices draw on the existing electrical grid, and do involve microwave towers. Devices are used which are fixed to poles that are connecting to power lines. These weapon systems are used by neighbours surrounding persons who have been singled out as targets of opportunity.

8) What can targets do to protect themselves?

It´s very difficult to advise targeted individuals on how to acquire peace. All of the frequencies can somehow be blocked or deflected. The pain can be ameliorated if not halted altogether. Writing to congress or state legislators might not be a better alternative because you will be treated as something worthy of the circular basket. They just won´t intervene. Writing to the various agencies won´t help either because they will say there are no laws prohibiting these types of activities. Try to protect yourself to alleviate the pain you´re experiencing. Keep your faculties together and don´t go to psychiatrists, physiologists or doctors because many of them are involved.

9) What is the involvement of religious groups?

Perpetrators appear to belong predominantly to one particular religion, whereas targeted individuals do not belong predominantly to that particular religion. She is not prepared to name the religious group. There is a religious influence but that´s is not to say that these people aren’t being used as puppets by some broader interest.

10) Does moving help?

No, every community everywhere is wired up to the network and the protocol follows the target wherever he or she may choose to go. No TI should look for a reason as to why this is going on. It´s a serious, serious mistake. It´s a natural tendency that should be avoided. She did that herself when they started on her and over the years she came up with six different possibilities.

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