#590 Vicarious Trauma, Hyper Vigilance and the Spiral of DestructionI went through a period where I contacted every group that stud against torture. As I did one of the main words that kept coming up in connection with torture was of course, "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder". That then became part of my phrase in my Google search. It also lead to the others I have been using in association, like Hyper vigilance and Vicarious trauma. That was also where I came across the CIA psychologist that you and I spoke about,..... "The torture victim is forced to speak with others in and attempt to heal while those the victim talk to are at risk of vicarious trauma"...... ( they themselves can get PTSD from just listening to the torture we have endured)......This leads to those who the torture victim talks to in and effort to heal themselves to pushing the torture victim away to save themselves psychological trauma". "Leading to the further isolation of the torture victim by those he attempts to talk to who are at risk of PTSD".( by way of vicarious trauma). So the torture victim falls in a never ending spiral of destruction as those they attempt to talk to, to heal push them away and further isolate the torture victim".The CIA psychologist didn't put in the,"vicarious trauma", I did. I found this term by reading about doctors that treat post traumatic soldiers from Vietnam. It is better we use accepted terms in the professions when ever we can.I have been using this story so TIs know why others can't deal with the horror of what we have been through and prefer to believe it never happened. they are doing it to not be harmed by our pain through, "vicarious trauma". at the same time they need to understand that it is here on the groups that they can speak about their torture and heal.That would also be why I get so fucking pissed when new TI are blasted so bad by us older more experience TIs who forget what it was like to be unaware and to not have gotten this burden off of our shoulders. For these reason there is no excuse to kick these people off groups before they can begin to heal. we need more patience. Because they are in a state of, "Hyper Vigilance". I term I also picked up from doctors attempting to treat tortured soldiers coming back from Vietnam. torture brings on this hyper state until they can get so treatment and talk about there torture or trauma. It is normal for new TIs to be in this hypered state of panic and see threats where there are none.I try to explain to TI who see threats in normal every day events that this is what is now happening and why, like targeted individuals who think that the television news is talking about them. We can all relate to this a so point in our targeting.You added the last piece of this puzzle that has been being put together by us deca. that would be the writing by MI6 that the most effective torture is torture that seems to have no reason or no cause. Running the torture victims head around in circles trying to understand why. If we knew why we might be able to end this shit, but that is why they will never let us know or switch from one cause to another. It makes for a more effective torture program.Again though we have everything we need among ourselves to heal each other. we are all already PTSD and hearing new versions isn't going to do us harm. It is also why we are having so much trouble getting the public to accept that we are being targeted, they are saving themselves from vicarious trauma.by the way when I dug up my records and proved with their own records that police had had me under surveillance, that they had had me hospitalized and my home had been searched for bombs, proving what I had been saying all along, they then agreed I had been through some type of severe trauma and offered to treat me for PTSD. I told them I was already getting treatment from other Targeted people just like myself on the Internet.I also brought in the descriptions of military weapons that could explain the voices and the radiation weapon I was attacked by.No fucking hero's welcome for us, know home coming parade either and nobody wants to hear about or deal with what we have been through either. This is what the Vietnam war veterans went through when they came home. This is also why they had so much trouble dealing with it and why they sit at the American Legion Bar talking about there time over in Vietnam among themselves. That might even be why so many of my perps come from the American Legion building here in Riverside RI. One of my perps even had the sign in front saying, "congratulations M Gamma". I wonder if it was for the perping he was doing of if he got some government job for his participation.Maybe that is why we are all so separated so we can't slug down a few cold beers and heal each other. We need less wars and less weapons, not more.Peter Rosenholm
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