I will post my statements about this mans article in blue!
Did God Order the Killing of Babies?
| by | Dave Miller, Ph.D. |
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=2810
Skeptics and atheists have been critical of the Bible’s portrayal of God ordering the death of entire populations—including women and children. For example, God instructed Saul through the prophet Samuel to “go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey” (1 Samuel 15:3-4, emp. added). Other examples include the period of the Israelite conquest of Canaan in which God instructed the people to exterminate the Canaanite populations that occupied Palestine at the time. Yet another example is Sodom and Gomorah, the flood and the countless thousands of hebrews he killed in the wilderness. However, if one cares to examine the circumstances and assess the rationale, the Bible consistently exonerates itself by offering legitimate (note here he says legitimate, lets see what that word means to him) clarification and explanation to satisfy the honest searcher of truth.
The Hebrew term herem found, for instance, in Joshua 6:17, refers to the total dedication or giving over of the enemy to God as a sacrifice involving the extermination of the populace -Extermination of the populace sounds like what the New WOrld Order wants. Maybe they learned it from god. It is alleged that the God of the Bible is as barbaric and cruel as any of the pagan gods. But this assessment is simply not true.
If the critic would take the time to study the Bible and make an honest evaluation of the principles of God’s justice, wrath, and love, he would see the perfect and harmonious interplay between them. God’s vengeance is not like the impulsive, irrational, emotional outbursts of pagan deities or human beings. He is infinite in all His attributes and thus perfect in justice, love, and anger.If gods wisdom is infinite, why couldnt he have the Hebrews adopt those little children into their own houses? Just as God’s ultimate and final condemnation of sinners to eternal punishment will be just and appropriate Who in the World said that anyone wants a god who would TORTURE SOMEONE FOREVER for not believing in them?!?!, so the temporal judgment of wicked people in the Old Testament was ethical and fair. We human beings do not have an accurate handle on the gravity of sin and the deplorable nature of evil and wickedness. He needs to speak for himself not for others when he says we dont know what is wicked. Human sentimentality is hardly a qualified measuring stick for divine truth and spiritual reality. Here this guy is saying we, as humans, dont know what we need. I would posit that we, as humans, know more than anyone what we need.
How incredibly ironic that the atheist, the agnostic, the skeptic, and the liberal all attempt to stand in judgment upon the ethical behavior of God when, if one embraces their position, there is no such thing as an absolute, objective, authoritative standard by which to pronounce anything right or wrong. As the French existentialist philosopher, Sartre, admitted: “Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist.... Nor...are we provided with any values or commands that could legitimize our behavior” (1961, p. 485). The atheist and agnostic have absolutely no platform on which to stand to make moral or ethical distinctions—except as the result of purely personal taste Here he shows his lack of education. There are thousands of years worth of knowledge on what being a good person means, OUTSIDE of the judeo-christian god. The mere fact that they concede the existence of objective evil is an unwitting concession there is a God Who has established an absolute framework of moral judgments. He does not give an explanation of his position. Even Christs Golden Rule falls short of absolute humanity. It only works if the person is a healthy individual. This leaves the vast majoriy of humankind oustide the Golden Rule! it clearly falls short of absolute perfection.
The facts of the matter are that the Canaanites, whom God’s people were to destroy, were destroyed for their wickedness (Deuteronomy 9:4; 18:9-12; Leviticus 18:24-25,27-28). Canaanite culture and religion in the second millennium B.C. were polluted, corrupt, and perverted. No doubt the people were physically diseased from their illicit behavior. There simply was no viable solution to their condition except destruction I cant believe this man is so blatant! He says the only way to respond to a people i n need of leadership IS TO KILL THEM ALL!!! Forget education, and diplomacy, JUST KILL EM ALL!!. Their moral depravity was “full” (Genesis 15:16). They had slumped to such an immoral, depraved state, with no hope of recovery, that their existence on this Earth had to be terminated—just like in Noah’s day when God waited while Noah preached for years, but was unable to turn the world’s population from its wickedness This wickedness includes marrying after divorcing and wearing clothes that didnt have a blue hem in them (Genesis 6:3,5-7; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 3:5-9). Including the children in the destruction of such populations actually spared them from a worse condition—that of being reared to be as wicked as their parents and thus face eternal punishment. All persons who die in childhood, according to the Bible, are ushered to Paradise and will ultimately reside in Heaven. Children who have parents who are evil must naturally suffer innocently while on Earth (e.g., Numbers 14:33).32'But as for you, your corpses will fall in this wilderness. 33Your sons shall be shepherds for forty years in the wilderness, and they will suffer for your unfaithfulness, until your corpses lie in the wilderness. 34According to the number of days which you spied out the land, forty days, for every day you shall bear your guilt a year, even forty years, and you will know My opposition." SO here the christian god says that sons will pay the price for their fathers sins! DOes that REALLY sound just?.… I love this next part where he says torture is good, we just have to see it the right way....
Those who disagree with God’s annihilation of the wicked in the Old Testament have the same liberal attitude that has come to prevail in America just in the last half century. That attitude has typically opposed capital punishment, as well as the corporal punishment of children. Such people simply cannot see the rightness of evildoers being punished by execution or physical pain. Nevertheless, their view is skewed—and the rest of us are being forced to live with the results of their warped thinking: undisciplined, out-of-control children are wreaking havoc on our society by perpetrating crime to historically, all-time high levels.ALL TIME LEVELS!!! He displays his lack of knowledge for her are some article that tell the REAL Truth-click here
Those who reject the ethics of God’s destructive activity in the Old Testament, to be consistent, must reject Jesus and the New Testament Note how he is telling you that YOU MUST believe that god killed all those innocent babies for you to accept christ. DO you feel that way?. Over and over again, Jesus and the New Testament writers endorsed and defended such activity (e.g., Luke 13:1-9; 12:5; 17:29-32; 10:12; Hebrews 10:26-31). The Bible provides the only logical, sensible, meaningful, consistent explanation regarding the principles of retribution, punishment, and the conditions under which physical life may be extinguished.
SO In the end, you must accept that the christian god kills babies!!! And will kill some more, so if you plan on having a baby, think again, Jesus may target it for destruction!
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Sue, It is great that you have your own mind! I do see that you are repudiating most of the bible as mans word! I wish to try an experiment. I wish to find out how much of the bible you think is from god and how much is from men. And why you feel this way. I am wondering how much the bible tells about a person by how they believe in what it says. Those, like Lynn, who just love a baby killing god because she read she is supposed to in her book. It makes me wonder who she truly is.