- denny32
i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps
mates are brill anyways
Diane O'Donnell
i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar
e unsuccessful in controlling you.
you still have your son?
denny32
so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting
Tarik
hellos sheri
feck it all hey
dboots
hi sheri
yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.
they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life
passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this
lol
shit lmfao
yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!
lol
its life
the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can
with iot as they say lifes too short
:-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!
hello Tarik
lol,they grow when someone dies
its like the film the ring
we got 7 days
lol
and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died
it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!
yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off
from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!
too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently
wonder what the cost of all this is
could help millions
instead of killing um
i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so
yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont
i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh
yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.
i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*
take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for
a drink just topiss um off
lol
tc you
:-)
yeah, at least i have a car!
dont they torture whilst u drive
only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.
focus is very good,dont give in
stay strong and things will change
Tarik
get up stand up for your right
i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs
michel, may i ask you a question?
stand n deliver do pp
denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)
it is pretty good
nice ending with duncan
what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me
HVP
JVP
most of it seemed very credible
i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?
i have
stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program
or jesuits venture program
ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down
i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'
but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc
may i pose a question to everyone?
sure
what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?
or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)
who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?
hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?
someone knows someone at least
i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war
what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific
but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place
charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?
i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business
dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization
gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list
giane, may i ask what organization?
ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office
if it's ok
or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?
does good will count?
save the children, nspcc
are you friends with ngo members?
no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously
same here
before
i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another
and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos
nope
direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?
but my town has multiple ngos
will any of us be hit ?
what do you mean by will any of us be hit?
did you see about the earthquakes in uk?
denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?
sure
you used the word cudgel not me
cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.
we're being diverted by semntics here
ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics
because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?
i still am unsure what that means
are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????
each and every ngo not each and each
you are not answering my question
you are trying to muddle it with semantics
but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from
or you need to know what i know?
we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek
i already know enough to pin the people involved
week
NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear
how clearer still do you want it to be?
will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?
means so he can understand it
governmentalienrobotgod
osi you there?
no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?
governmentalienrobotgod
osi is that you?
are payback a mf??/
osi is who?
governmentalienrobotgod
stand and deliver, are you osi informers?
mother f--k
nope
governmentalienrobotgod
dboots suck a dick
thanks
the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another
no name etc
depending on the mood
noticed that
why change names
wont make no difference
governmentalienrobotgod
are you guys eh victims?
yeah woohoo lucky git me is
what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems
lol
it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me
ffs
you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???
what like a milf
lol
dboots you are being diversionary
swallowed a dictionary
no i am not you just don't like my answers
can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context
dboots has got a point
why are you pretending i didn't answer
how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining
Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
i am not presumptuous
how is a NO a not even explaining????
what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it
?and why is it a different thing entirely
because paybacks are another thing entirely
please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND
do you understand that
if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?
o dom
like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?
well i think you are about to put words into my mouth
nope. i asked you to spell it out
and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words
if you say it is wrong you can explain further
because I already stated NOPE
good explanation
about stalk n harass
you also said this:
dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
larry,
that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
they messing mate big time with pc
like what means?
and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?
you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project
uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?
LJC:hay
yeah they are
mines real slow
i called your # no answer
check your phone to see my # and hit recall
cant as its no number mate
ok must be blocking me
just says call witheld
what are other means of paying back?
dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
ok ill try again
ok
Zilke
Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.
what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE
Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.
unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong
but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means
naw it is collecting evidence
it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to
that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that
i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback
A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.
no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to
i have to close picepink its slowing me down
i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity
Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.
plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment
what do u mean slowing u down
nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation
if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?
well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right
and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out
dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?
They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.
perhaps you should scroll up and re read
how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out
like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment
you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception
you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks
it will also define how you contextualize things
sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you
forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks
or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of
well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????
bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!
i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback
... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge
curious about people who exact payback
but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???
it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it
because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways
i try to talk to them
or stay away from them
or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them
no vengeful ways
hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing
dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now
NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them
no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize
and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives
if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive
the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system
I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with
in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.
it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them
worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me
these were people i trusted
who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern
i didn't know they were behind the rome statute
i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim
all that happened after were but set-up
to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..
directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)
May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?
no
you have 2 posts you just put up so you know your posts are not being blocked
3 the day before so what posts are you all of a sudden worried about that you need post this conversaTION???
this conversation nothng really got settled
dboots, why are you so worried? This is a public forum. what are you so worried about?
i have been posting conversations before that i deem relevant to the matters being discussed. This iis a public forum and the matters being discussed are relevant to us victims here.
you, of all people should know that
somehow i felt today you were trying to make me into something that i am not according to how you see things in your world I am not that world
because when you said you were being bullied and harassed, and i posted the convo which will show what happened, you wanted it posted.
you weren't being bullied or harassed so ????
now that we do not share the same view on this particular topic, you are curtailing my right to document a public conversation?
what gives?
you weren't being bullied or harassed that is what gives
the buck stops with you?
and who said i am documenting it because i am being bullied and harassed?
where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i am documenting it so the discussion about this will have a record. why can't i do that?
because of the manner you are going about this
your tunnel vision is not my tunnel vision
uh???? did i even say thio ?? -- dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
dboots, why are you so defensive?
why have you made this issue about you?
NO STAND I TYPED THAT i never said you typed that please take time to read things and maybe you wouldn't get them out of context so often
you asked - dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i didnt say you bullied or harassed me
i said i am documenting this
i am documenting this discussion made on a public forum
because some times we type and paste at the same time someone else is making a comment so we have to go back a few comments to understand
ok. you typed before you saw my statement.. scroll up
anyway, i am documenting this
seeing now how you are so defensive about this thing
this is a public forum
the rule doesn't change because you want it to
we have the same rights you and i
the only thing i am defensive about is the manner in which you were trying to put words into my mouth that i don't like
you cant curtial my rights just because you want to
please don't put words into my mouth
sigh... how many times do i have to explain this... i am asking you to explain things because i dont want to misinterpret you
you said you choose not to answer
what other means you think constitutes a payback
anyway, this is but a cyclical coversation
good day
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