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If I had enough money, I would perhaps try to detect and analyze the signal eith this kind of software radio:

http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SDR-IQ.html

Deca, I appreciate your post. I understand that ICAACT is doing much more than many other TIS. They have put together something against a powerful foe. But, I do think that considering a few things, like logical deduction, I believe that although there are different technologies out there, the one we need to be most concerned with is non-invasive tech by remote. Think about it again please, If someone HAS developed a non-invasive BCI that uses ELf waves( I use ELF as an example because it fits the 'bill' so to speak) they would be able to tap into ANY ONE'S mind ANYTIME. The result would be that, well you wont find any chips. The perps who use ELF waves, eliminate the need to be in close personal proximity to inject them, or drug them, kidnap them and do brain surgery on them. Then ELF waves assault could be used form the other side of the planet with ANY need for close contact of any sort. THis would make an enemy FAR more powerful than the other.

When it comes to this statement; "so as far a I am concerned  the ICAACT RF scanning is well thought out and its something that is happening , yes it may not cover everything , or solve the problem , but it is happening and so far has had a lot of success of raising  awareness and also make our claims to be taken seriously  ........look around what else is there ?" It is true, that there arent other organizations, and absolutely NONE who focus on the idea of non-invasive tech. Doesnt that set up a flag? If all the people who are mind controlled think its being done by a chip insert, BUT there are none produced , the maybe the idea of it being a chip is planted by the mind control operators. The importance of representing ourselves with accuracy is , again like this; When the governmental authorities say, "Ok Deca, we will look to see if someone has planted a device in you and your people," So they will do an honest and completely thorough search of many TIs. None will have implants! They will still get EH. But, the authorities will say," Look, we looked over all of you with a fine tooth comb and we didnt find anything, not micro, nor, nano. SO, we really think you all need to be on meds, and we have better things to do with our time." All the while we will be tortured by EH. Dont you see that? Please REply Deca. You honestly seem intelligent, and you are actively doing something for us, would you please consider what I say? If we spend ALL our time and our efforts on a wild goose chase that is likely a wild goose chase by government design, that chips are the cause....WEll we will end up being busted and broke with nothing left for the REAL cause of the problem. Now I am not saying there arent more than one technology . I have many times said the opposite, but I do want to focus on the technology that presents TI with the greatest problem

COnsider, If implants were true, Then it seems that the biggest problem is finding doctors, or a doctor if he wanted to be the richest doctor in the world, but , say, In the USA people could go see Bob Boyce's DOctor. Have you ever tried to contact Bob BOyce to see if he would give you the name of the doctor THAT DID do the surgery? Hell, if you could prove to me that you will get BOb BOyces doctor to perform a surgery on an ICAACT person , I will pay $1,000.00 US dollars to make it happen. But, I would require q polygraph test because Im not giving my money to some guy who implants himself with a VErichip(or gets it done at a night club...hey maybe Walbert got his at a nightclub and was just too fucked up to remember!). I would also ask that there would be documentation provided by myself or examined by a unbiased source. I imagine Deca, If you could make something like this happen, you would be a hero! I mean, you should talk to your guys at ICAACT and see if they would get this doctor that boyce went to. He obviously isnt afraid and from experience knows there 'might' be a chip. SO why not do it? Like I said, I would pay. I want to prove something myself. 

I think the government has fooled the greatest hope we have in a organization-ICAACT. WE actually DO have some real good people basically volunteering their time to save the world....and the government has pulled the wool over their eyes. Please, dont let the progress ICAACT has made be lost because of hard headed insistence on an idea that is flawed in so many ways-the chip implant. The numbers prove most are being assaulte by non-invase BCIs. You admit there are those who receive non-invasive menas of torture, , why dont you focus on that 'proof'? If you could find why TIs still get symptoms in your thrid stage Faraday room, you might get some where. You see if MOST waves cant enter the cage, bu t the TI still gets symptoms, the either THe chip is functioning under its own power- which means it would be huge(Like a VErichip) or it would be that the TI is really insane and thus hallucinating the symptoms, or the perps are accessing the brain/body of the TI by waves the Faraday room doesnt stop. DOes this special room block ELF ULF or Vlf Frequencies? If the room isnt rated to stop Hertz below 30, you likely have the reason why TI get symptoms in the room you test them in. ITs likely then ELF waves. And ALL the time and resources ICAACT used, INCLUDING DONATIONS FROM POOR UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE who just want to trust you, Is goinfg to waste.

SO, I understand what you have written. I hope you see there are some questions you have not really addressed, (like why dont you get BOb BOyces doctor)

You question my motive. WEll, I think ALL humans are TIS. I think everyone, INCLUDING MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!! are being mind raped by these people. I dont think anyone has implanted anything in my family, but I know that they have at times been influenced by the perps. SO, I have  personally interest in finding the Truth. 

Overall I think my argument holds a LOT of water. I spend my time with PP because others are raped like me. I find comfort in camaraderie. But, I understand that there are few who can think clear enough to 'crunch' ideas like crunching numbers. I have spent some time on a singularity site, and Shit Man, You should see all the topics they talk about. FRom the financial/commercial,/monetary aspect of their agenda, to the psycho-social ramifications. These people are way ahead of where we are, and they dont have the impetus of knowing they are TIS. If SOmeone could put a fire unders their butts(one that wont go out when the government say ,"we proved you wrong there are no chips) then we would gain some real brain power when confronting our problem. Presenting the idea of ANYTHING invasive is so problematic that it falls apart real soon. On the other hand non-invasive tech would explain how ALL humans unaware, are under the control of the enemy.

This si a great idea Martti. I did notice that this device only works at levels to as low as 100 Hertz. THe E:F waves that they may use to manipulate the braiin are from 1-30 Hertz. This test would therefore not be able to decide anything under its 100 Hertz capacity.


 Amazing Frequency coverage of 500Hz to 30 MHz. Usable down to 100 Hz.

Martti Koski said:


If I had enough money, I would perhaps try to detect and analyze the signal eith this kind of software radio:

http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SDR-IQ.html

I have an SDR usb stick that can be bought for around £15 ....freqencey range 25mhz to 1700mhz

I just strated to play around with it....more as a learning tool

this place it probably a good place to get one from
http://www.nooelec.com/store/

Defcon 21 - All Your RFz Are Belong to Me - Hacking the Wireless World with Software Defined Radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuNOD3XWp4A

**** please Note *****

again I don't know if these cheap devices have the capability or range to detect the signals they use on TI (target individuals) , but for the price they are going to be a great educational tool , before spending more money on more expensive specialised equipment , so in that case I think they are interesting to the TI community that want to research this side of things, but again you need to study this and learn to distinguish different types of signals in our environment before jumping to conclusion and making claims.

again I do believe there are people scanning the EM spectrum trying to figure this out....again this is not as simple or as cheap as it sounds .... think the only person I came across that looks like they credible is Roger Tolces

Electronic Harassment Surveillance the Police State -- Private Investigator Roger Tolces 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0jXrH95TE

but to put the in perspective i think he claimed his military grade spectrum analyser cost around $50,000

plus he has training and years of experiencing in bug sweeping


FULL NAME said:

Is there anyone looking for a way to detect the correct signal ( in numbers and specifications) and block the freakin thing or you are all just hoping to find an implant and get to the court?

There must be something, they wont make a system that they wont have protection against it, especially when its spreaded on global level, it could be something quite simple.

What do you think a court will do and what court you are talking about? This technology, if available, is super secret, non existant, decades of experimenting, huge amount of $$ and you think they will just stop using it and destroy it? because of a some court? court may work for you and me, not for them...

I have been reading for few months, people are sufering for years, noone has actually done serious measurements or investigation.

Why not gather funds, go in the middle of nowhere, loaded with bunch of spectrum analizers and whatever, and wait, whatever comes, that, need to be jammed or investigated, than go from there.

Also someone have mentioned that icaact is an organization of few people, why not make organization of few thousand people, more funds plus less fear, so nobody gets killed while shooting the sky for a signal :))

again as far I am aware the US side of ICAACT were in contact with bob boyce (I think he died , not sure) , again I am personally more from the non implant TI camp , so personally have looked at this from being done without implants ....but realised a few years ago this was a false dichotomy and their is a range of technology's and methods used on TI

plus I quickly realised the difficulty in actual proving a particular signal is actual targeting you.....

again just look at the people trying to prove mobile phones/mast/wi fi /smart meters and how they can`t even prove this in courts

hence why and realise the genius of trying to detect an signal being emitted by the body ...what the RF scan of ICAACT focus on at the moment.

also ICAACT has many projects in the works .... one is developing or own test centre in the US ...with a certified faraday cage & equipment etc

but Rome was not built in a day , this take time & resources etc..

the RF scanning for RF being emitted by the body is something we can do now and are ...and believe is worth while

simple as

again we have to go past coming up with theory's and arguing over the internet ....and actually find practical ways to do tests and find objective evidence ....and that's what ICAACT is doing ok 

and as far as I can see all the people trying to discredit ICAACT are actually ignorant of what ICAACT is doing or deliberately misleading others   and also not doing anything themselves

Deca, I still do not see an explanation of WHY ICAACT chooses to utilize their resources on implants alone. It seems that, if they were to admit that non-invasive tech existed, they would understand the importance of that reality and, thus minimize the time they spend on the least likely of technologies as the culprit of our torture. 

I mean, it sounds as though ICAACT wants to expand. You want to build a faraday cage. I must ask Will THIS Faraday cage actually be made to block ELF waves? Have you even asked those in charge of this American project if they have EVEN THOUGHT about blocking ELF waves.

In the end, I think it is very sad to see TIs only representative organization doing Next to Nothing for the MOST PROMINENT toll in the human terror business. Think of ALL the TIs who have symptoms (not signals, signals dont mean anything thats why they need 3 stages. If you get a positive on 1 and 2, it admittedly doesnt mean a thing because they got to do the 3rd stage. What makes anyone think the 3rd stage will provide anything More meaningful than the first 'garbage' scans?)so signals doesnt mean a thing. All those TIs with v2k and body assault are being assaulted by non-invasive means that penetrates a Faraday cage. So what does that tell you ? That ICAACT is intentionally scanning for a TEchnology that isnt really being used on a broad scale.

when you consider how ICAACT is misleading the people, whether meaning to or just mind controlled, how do you feel that you are doing anything for anyone? I mean, if you were to lead a group of people out of the wilderness, But YOU actually led them farther into the disaster, would they think you did them a favor? I think someone taking the time to do the research that points to the truth is more valuable to those lost people that the one who actively leads them do disaster.When it comes to ALL those who put down ICAACT...Please point me to other TIs that feel the way I do about ICAACT. The organization really has the people believing in implants(most likely as their mind  control perps are causing them to do as a 'mask' to the real tools used). SO, a TI could follow ICAACT down the wrong path, of they could pressure ICAACT to more faithfully represent reality when it comes to what is haunting us. Spending all this time on implants is lost time because the vast majority of humans on earth are being monitored in other ways, without the invasive procedures of implants.
deca said:

also ICAACT has many projects in the works .... one is developing or own test centre in the US ...with a certified faraday cage & equipment etc

but Rome was not built in a day , this take time & resources etc..

the RF scanning for RF being emitted by the body is something we can do now and are ...and believe is worth while

simple as

again we have to go past coming up with theory's and arguing over the internet ....and actually find practical ways to do tests and find objective evidence ....and that's what ICAACT is doing ok 

and as far as I can see all the people trying to discredit ICAACT are actually ignorant of what ICAACT is doing or deliberately misleading others   and also not doing anything themselves

I think that Boyces case was big enough that someone could get the doctor's name from the material made public, therefore it might not matter at all if the man has passed away.

Why is it that you believe that RF scanning is worth while? DO you even bother with equipment that reads ELF VLF waves? I dont find technical parameters of tools used for scanning. Do YOU deca, Know if their scanners read ELF VHF waves? Can you tell us the product name and number of the scanner so people can research this BEFORE they get involved with their time and effort? Let me tell you, I have recently read of a TI who bought a scanner for himself...one that DID read ELF waves. NOw he is presented with the Real problem. Since ELf waves are produced naturally by the human body, the TI must Prove that the ELF waves have ENCODED INFORMATION> SO it may very well be that ICAACT is chasing their tail by just reading waves. They need to connect computers with decrypting software to find out if any signals carry say, encoded voice messages, thus finding v2k in the signals! (YOu should start with ELF waves, NOT RF waves!)

Knowledge is power. If you are barking up the wrong tree because you have False Knowledge, you are wasting your time(and so is everyone following your lead) and when you and everyone following you find that it is the wrong tree, and the Accurate Knowledge, And thus ACcurate power, is lost to you because you wasted your time on wild goose chases. THis is the importance of DISCUSSING what the perps use. ITs not RF waves. I think you will find ...its that simple. The problem for you is...will it be too late when YOU find out its not RF waves?

deca said:

again as far I am aware the US side of ICAACT were in contact with bob boyce (I think he died , not sure) , again I am personally more from the non implant TI camp , so personally have looked at this from being done without implants ....but realised a few years ago this was a false dichotomy and their is a range of technology's and methods used on TI

plus I quickly realised the difficulty in actual proving a particular signal is actual targeting you.....

again just look at the people trying to prove mobile phones/mast/wi fi /smart meters and how they can`t even prove this in courts

hence why and realise the genius of trying to detect an signal being emitted by the body ...what the RF scan of ICAACT focus on at the moment.

This is a great idea Full Name. It is obvious they are using some form of signal. IT doesnt seem obvious that implants are involved because there arent any being found. SO, we need to not only isolate the used signal, but prove there is information encrypted within it. It will take more funding than ICAACT has currently and more minds, since ICAACT minds are so focused on implants. I am currently working on other sites dealing with the technological Singularity. These people are also side tracked by implantable tech. If one could get then to realize the power of non-invasive BCIs at a distance, we might get some to see the resulting fundamental security breeches into the human mind en mass, as there is no fire wall to the brain. SO, If we could get others barking up our tree so to speak, we might get funding. BUT, we must keep our true identity as TIs a secret until the unclassified sources prove that it is possible to do, read minds form a distance. TO announce the reality that this tech ALREADY exists makes a TI look carazy to these people. To do our recruiting work while disguised, I believe, would be best for the present.

FULL NAME said:

Is there anyone looking for a way to detect the correct signal ( in numbers and specifications) and block the freakin thing or you are all just hoping to find an implant and get to the court?

There must be something, they wont make a system that they wont have protection against it, especially when its spreaded on global level, it could be something quite simple.

What do you think a court will do and what court you are talking about? This technology, if available, is super secret, non existant, decades of experimenting, huge amount of $$ and you think they will just stop using it and destroy it? because of a some court? court may work for you and me, not for them...

I have been reading for few months, people are sufering for years, noone has actually done serious measurements or investigation.

Why not gather funds, go in the middle of nowhere, loaded with bunch of spectrum analizers and whatever, and wait, whatever comes, that, need to be jammed or investigated, than go from there.

Also someone have mentioned that icaact is an organization of few people, why not make organization of few thousand people, more funds plus less fear, so nobody gets killed while shooting the sky for a signal :))

Deca, you said this; ", again I am personally more from the non implant TI camp , so personally have looked at this from being done without implants ....but realised a few years ago this was a false dichotomy and their is a range of technology's and methods used on TI"

What was involved in the realization that non-invasive tech is a false dichotomy? What are these range of tech, and what points to each kind of tech that is being used? I too agree that there will be a small amount of people that are experimented on by various tech. I also believe that Non-invasive BCI from a distance will be like having a queen on a chess table. It is the most powerful piece of the puzzle. To focus all our attention on looking for pawns, we wont even see the queen coming.

Deca, if you look hard enough you will find people who own and use 8 track tapes(Do you know what they are?) But, there is a reason you will only find a very few people who still own and use 8 track tapes..its because there is much better tech out there. Why would someone use implants when you dont need them? Its like, why have the cassette at ALL? we just need a a receiver/sender and for ELF waves tech the sender/ receiver is the brain itself. No need for kidnapping and doing surgery to get an implant into the brain.

Do the people you scan ever ask these kinds of questions? I am curious to know.

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