Identifying the technology used and seeking help

You all have been somewhat of a lifeline to me as of lately - so I apologize for blowing it up in terms of asking so many questions - but I'm very new to these types of attacks and I'm really becoming frightened.

 

The attacks are almost nonstop -

 

 I'm not sure by WHAT i'm being attacked with.  Is this V2k, RNM, etc?? (They tell me that I'm connected to multiple RNM's but I believe these people are liars - - and the technology involved confuses me)

 

 These people have the ability to tell me memories from when I was a small child - things I haven't thought about in 25+ years - - I Have buzzes all over my body, popping between my eyes, actual text & subliminal messaging  being placed in my mind,  - scripted conversations & voices internally & externally, (many of which I believe are programmed and repeat throughout the day), constant threats that I need to turn myself into the FBI, anti religious talk, dream manipulation - and yesterday they made my face actually swell up like I"d suffered some form of allergic reaction.

 

I'm becoming extremely frightened, knowing that they can actually cause an allergic reaction to occur in my body.  I'm desperate for assistance - but I don't know who to call - Should I call Fbi? I feel at risk for being put away.   

 

 

 

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  • how often are you all talking w/ a real person vs a programmed script?  its so difficult to tell sometimes

  • Nick Fo, I assume you are reffering to yourself when saying "even from the perspective of someone not hearing v2k voices"? I myself have had V2S and all the mumbling etc, especially in the beginning phase it was very intense. I dont have the V2S that seems to be real voices anymore although, but indeed I am sure there are subliminal manipulations. I do have perceptions as "screaming voices" from a lot of sound sources, such as tapping water, fans, my computor sound etc, etc. and still the humming at some times and very often also the high pitch tinnitus in ears. I try not to focus on what is said (perceived by my) as much as I can, and I can override it with for instance Isotonic sound tracks, I always sleep with these in my ears aswell.

    Regarding being suspicious about members here being AI or perps, I must honestly say I dont suspect that very often,  if ever, maybe I am naive but I on the other hand, dont think there is any use/need for the ones behind this, infiltring here on PP, as they have access to our brains directly and remotely for all what is wanted.

    Try to let go of these feelings (not easy, I know, since the hang ups are wanted to entrain yr brain) and it will gradually slow down for you, I believe in fact thats the key to a lot of harassments we are exposed to. Its also of importance we all experience differencies in what main harassment we are exposed to, some have more V2S, and some have more of physical harassments or GS. In my own case, my bodyfunctions are manipulated with, such as hormone balances etc,,our bodies is runned by hormone producing glands,  so its a great way by experimentating with a victims body IRL, to see what happens and what diseases that might be develloped-horrible!

     

    We need to look beyond the fact anyone might be here "playing" with us, since the only option we have in a situation like this, is to communicate and support eachother and by publish news and articles, expose this to the rest of the world. If being effected by suspicious thoughts and thereby withdrawing from sites like this, is going in the direction of what is wanted-namely isolation of the victims and silence. Take care/Annie

     

     

     

  • And adding to the topic of triggers, heres two ive been trained to consider suspicous in online behaviour:

    1) People displaying very limited skill at written English, like theyre using translation software, or constantly fumbling words from using phones or ipads or trying waay too hard to appear aloof or cool by jumbling phrases in ways that their ideas are hard to grasp at first glance, yet turn around in other instances, appearing to have no trouble with written English like it IS their native language

    2) People who ive decided to engage directly that refuse at all costs to answer a direct question, choosing instead to change the topic every time, and only gradually hint at understanding the question with each subsequent reply, until finally giving a direct answer but adding a logical contradiction so the answer becomes yes AND no.

    And YES have seens multiple instances of this behaviour on peacepink, making it seem like there might be alot more perps posing as TI's than normal for online forum/communities. Sorry to burst anyones bubble to suggest such a dark idea but isnt it to be expected considering how vicious these mongrels are and what this communitys about?


  • Annie -  You seem to know their manipulations well.  I need practice in not feeding into them - your advice has been a huge help - I'll give it a shot - so hard to ignore someone taking over your brain - I think you're 100% right though - that they are using these as tactics to map my brain/ thinking mechanics 
    Annie said:

    What is said via the V2S is not to listen to at all, its all nonsens. When it seems as slippering, its by purpose-always. Having this sophisticated technology where its possible to totally manoveur a victim out, I dont think a "slip" now and then is something that is likely to happen, its all done to make the victim think, aha, I heard something I wasnt suppose to hear, often its about who´s behind it, namedropping or even "overhearing" secret conversations. If u believe that is something u really overheard Paul, u need to realize that ALL u hear u are supposed to hear.

     

    JCM, my advice-dont go to the FBI-ever, if yr told to do so, thats a common threat, especially in the beginning phase, the sooner u get out of that phase-the better. U will then notice these kind of manipulations and "hang ups" will stop. I also have experienced it, and so have lots of other victims. My experience is, that as soon as u get the "aha" and realize this is only to hook u up (the more u get hooked, the worse it gets) and stop listening and pay attention to what is said, it will eventually slow down. Its a program runned remotely to yr brain, and it is supposed to get reactions from you, as it is learning and mapping yr brain. Horrible, and I know yr feeling, the hopelessness and panic, realizing no one will believe u, and still u are in this horror. Remeber, u are not alone and there are lots of other victims working hard exposing this to the rest of the world. The main issue is to get all victims understand how it works so that they not get hooked up and stucked in the belief its a real human sitting on the other end telling u what  to do, its not. And when more realize the picture, we will also be able to gain credibility from the public and not dismissed as delusional, as that is one of the main purpose by the ones behind this, a person classified as delusional is the perfect victim... There are lots of documentations both here and on the internet. I havent told my family, as I know they wouldnt believe in it, putting myself in their position (before being a victim) I wouldnt have believed it myself. Take care and remember-u are not alone!/Annie

  • I agree - this place is a great resource - you seem pretty active on this site - do you suggest any other good forums? The people here are absolutely amazing
     
    Big AL said:

    the things you describe, I have been through almost the same. They do lie alot about what is happening, Every once in a while they slip and tell more than they should.

    Keep sharing and maybe try chat room some. You have great means of building positive personal relationships with other TIs

  • the things you describe, I have been through almost the same. They do lie alot about what is happening, Every once in a while they slip and tell more than they should.

    Keep sharing and maybe try chat room some. You have great means of building positive personal relationships with other TIs

  • Hey, try to stay strong, alotof their tactics are to frighten, and yea try to avoid being put away.

    Ive seen it mentioned the safest way to approach law enforcment is to take an advocate who'll vouch for you, and being calm, but youd wanto ask around for people whove done it or know people who have to get intouch and hear what they have to say. As far as law enforcment actually helping victims, perhaps the conclusion to Neil Al-Chalabi's case history sums it up

    Also if youve ever wondered how wretched psychiatry really is, checkout http://www.newworldwar.org/anotherlook.htm - strong incentive for caution dealing with people having the power to commit you

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