I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL DOING OUR BIT TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC WHAT IS HAPPNING TO US BUT WERE HAS THAT GOT US SO FAR? NO WERE OR DEAD, ITS LIKE WE ARE DOING/GOING ABOUT IT ALL BY THE BOOK FOLLOWING THE LAW/SYSTEMS AND YET IT IS THESE LAWS/SYSTEMS RAPING US, MAYBE ITS TIME TO FIND ANOTHER APROACH? I FOR ONE DONT ENJOY RAEDING THE STORYS OF MY FRIENDS GETTING TOTAL TORTURE AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHINK TO HELP BECUASE OF THE BLOUDY LAW'S AND SYSTEMS?
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I am impressed by your strength and your belief. I think that such a strong believe that you have can help you. In a way we are all sacrificed for "humanity", because that is their argument: "Someone must suffer so the other get more -- health, security, etc." but that is a poor excuse for lives taken away form us, happiness and so on. At some point this argument is just unexplained tyranny that can keep on continuing for ages. In 100 years nothing changes. Who will take our places? Other poor people, children, young men and women that have all life in front of them, so somebody can write articles about tests on mice? We are those mice! For what I know, we only live one single life. If there is reincarnation, heaven or hell, i've no idea. The only thing that I know for sure is that I didn't deserve this, and I am sure none of us did. They could learn from religion more then "Jesus sacrificed himself for humanity", but also to develop ethical ways to do research and not to hurt other people. I don't think that I am getting purrified with torture, but then again experience is diffrent from one person to the other, and we all go through phases. When ones belief is strong but later fades away. I will pray then for you!;) And maybe for myself as well who knows.:)
Lou Ritter said:
Alexandra said:
I used to get inspires of Paulo Coelho, and I also prayed. They want to be God. I don't pray anymore. God didn't help jews in the Holocaust as well. I wish though that I could believe, but they mock God all the time, and think they ARE god.
Carol Baldwin said:
Holly-I, first of all am a great believer in prayer as I have seen in work in my life and in others!
Dear Alexandra, I have Faith IN GOD and I TRUST Him to know what is happening. I know the Lord does not HEAL and repair every sick person in the WAY we call 'healing'... HE does NOT SEND MONEY to all the poor people so that they can become well to do and maybe be as selfish as the ones who make it their LIFE WORK to get money... and then what happens? They die and leave it all.
I think Our Lord helps us MUCH MORE than we know. I have often wondered, IF HE took away ALL my pain and problems, what kind of person would I be then? Maybe I would think I did not need HIM anymore.. and that would be bad. Instead of praying for healing or money or deliverance from all this harassment, I pray for the Lord to instruct me the BEST WAY to be obedient to HIS wishes, and may I go through my WHOLE life like Paul the Apostle, tho he was beaten many times, stoned, jailed.... He just kept on serving the Lord.
I pray your faith will be restored to you.
I used to get inspires of Paulo Coelho, and I also prayed. They want to be God. I don't pray anymore. God didn't help jews in the Holocaust as well. I wish though that I could believe, but they mock God all the time, and think they ARE god.
Carol Baldwin said:
Holly-I, first of all am a great believer in prayer as I have seen in work in my life and in others!
Hi. Where I am, I know nobody that is in the same situation as I am. But I am recording every conversation I have and I also try to surveillance my home. I am isolated as well and I am directly wired with the police. They've also tortured my parents. They even torture my cats (i take care of homeless cats where I live). They can though interfere with my recorder and shut it off, and when I sleep it has happened that they have shut my cameras. But recording all conversation helps, now I even have internet because I record conversations with technical support, I save all bills when I buy technical equipment. They also cancel all credit cards I have, so I can't get equipment to measure this online because here in Spain I have not found any yet. If one starts to record and monitor oneself, the situation improves dramatically, but also they find new ways to continue.
Carol Baldwin said:
Holly-I, first of all am a great believer in prayer as I have seen in work in my life and in others! I pray every night and day for God to help, protect and shield us from this evil! I pray especially for the children. My only practical solution is unfortunately timely and costly. I would get a group of 2-4 people to travel to any ti's home with a radiation and hertz frequency measurement meter that records the data & have a video/audio recorder to capture the proof of any activities of radiation or electronic beams pictures or patterns. I would gather copies of any medical and documentations of absolute proof; such as implants; radiations burns. I would capture stalking on video camera with a timer on it for reference of times this is happening per day to them. I would take this info, as a group to a civil rights investigative group, all I can think of to do. I have lost a good friend who was a wonderful person to this torture including stalking and others I knew here who were extremely mentally hurt, as I am, by this and Holly, with all of the evil going on in this world right now, all I can do is pray, pray. Peace and Hope - we must never lose Hope!!! Thank you, Carol B in CA
HI. I am from Europe, and the only european page interested in this stuff that I found, I can't reach, I think they block some of the pages that they don't want me to visit. I also found a swedish page that claims to work with victims and other parties trying to start some kind of ethical debate (they claim that we are used because IBM and other computer companies want to build a computer brain that thinks as a human) but I didn't get any answer at all.
So I don't know what to do. I think we don't do so much because we are brainwashed to do nothing - so they really take our energy away from us. Many of us have already tried to get help but nobody have listened. We are also skeptical when it comes with other people that go through this because we are used to people that are usually "bought". If they really want to built some computer brain, then they must want to built some cyborg that lives in constant fear. Let's learn that brain to revolt against such action. Keep up the good work!:)
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Lou Ritter said:
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Carol Baldwin said:
So I don't know what to do. I think we don't do so much because we are brainwashed to do nothing - so they really take our energy away from us. Many of us have already tried to get help but nobody have listened. We are also skeptical when it comes with other people that go through this because we are used to people that are usually "bought". If they really want to built some computer brain, then they must want to built some cyborg that lives in constant fear. Let's learn that brain to revolt against such action. Keep up the good work!:)