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When I lived Under the Tree

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:30am
And you suddenly perceive like a revelation when you are walking in a cold dark night. Cold weather, fresh air, transparent atmosphere - the people of the area love the green, so you can breathe - something completely different from one of the areas where the drama started, there you could barely breathe through the fumes. But you could not tell to the guys of that area, they were accustomed to it.
It is precisely while walking on the cold night that one realizes that C plus plus is not going to resolve everything, that it is just one of tools.
The people have to know what happened when he lived under the tree and how life is affected under those circumstances.
It would have been impossible to achieve the state of revelation without the help of other people. It was the puzzle that was involved in certain phrases what made me feel of events that, although no significant, were apparently manipulated by the time setters to affect my entire life. Also, even at this moment I am hearing things which are complete inventions.
My experience under the tree were diverse. In what refers to human contact, there was practically none. Only the one provided by a man - apparently a worker of construction - that did not miss an opportunity to say something related to sex from the other side of the electrified fence. So you had to hear it early in the morning, when you were just trying to count how many hours you had been able to sleep without being bothered by animals.
But I do not think that it was the most important of that moment. Probably the core of that moment has to do with the manipulation that was made about me being sick with HIV. The scenarios that were created were so realistic that they impacted my life for a long, long time. Let's go to the scenarios:
While leaving the First Airport airport 03/19/08, I was made believe - and many people around too - that I had been contaminated with HIV. While on the plane those around me were "synchronized with the story" and I am sure that there were reference to this in the media at very high levels. From that moment on my life changed abruptly. At my arrival at Third Airport - final destination - it was widely believed that I was a sort of sexual prostitute that had been contaminated with HIV. Since I had lived "a sinful life" it was obvious that it was the result of "my life" what had lead to that problematic situation. I almost died that day. Sat down at one of the chairs of the airport for ours, trying to find out what to do. Then I started to lose contact with my previous life and enter in a world of harassment, intimidation and lies that has not stopped until Today.
My mind rejected to think about that period, it was too painful. The attitude of the people around me was evidently negative. I did not know, at that moment, the wide use of the media about me, so I thought that everything was local. It was strange to me, though, that "everybody" that I came across seemed to know me, so since the very beginning I suspected that very powerful people were after me. I think now that I understimated the power of those who were trying to destroy me.
It was particularly painful how they mixed my family in their attacks. That was something that added to the trauma that I was undergoing. And explains a lot about the fact that the perpetrators had no limits in their cruelty. I am sure that if the proper investigation is made, those who were in charge of the campaign around me have traits of cruelty against human beings that can be tracked down in their previous jobs and private lives.
I did not end up under the tree immediately, first I spent a whole week at the airport, wondering about like a lonely spirit, undergoing very cold temperatures, with a very thing jacket while trying to figure out why I was attacked from so many different angles of my life.
It was also the first time that "voice in skull" technology was used against me. Obviously, at that moment I did not know that technology existed. So the results were a complete disaster for my stability. For the first time I read about this technology this year, around March, after leaving the hospital where I was sent against my will.
It is very difficult, for a person completely unaware of the evil in this world, to perceive the careful manipulation that was made in all this. How everything has been staged to make me look like a stupid since the very beginning, how the opportunities have been "deleted" by carenully monitoring every place where I go. How the manipulation of those around me has been made. How even the place where you are going to receive food has been infiltrated to induce tension in you at the very moment of feeding yourself, how your health has been monitored illegally and lies have been prefabricated. How they inflict damage to your physical health by raising the level of hostility around you and using devices that violate the Geneva Convention. How they laugh at the Geneva Convention and create their own rules even though they told you when you enter their land that they were going to respect the Geneva Convention. How the people were laughing at the situation and now many see that the violations of privacy that they thought were going isolated now are a matter of public domain and hundreds of thousands will feel threated by those violations. How secret information, gather through these violations, is manipulated and adulterated to create false personalities. How through wall technology and voice in skull are used to alter the normal life or normal people. How an abnormal number of very well known people are suddenly leaving earth as a result of "accidents" or "mistakes of the doctors", or "wrong use of their medications".
Well, It was not agreeable to live under the tree. I only did that because I was afraid of the aggressiveness of the people and because I thought that I had been contaminated with HIV and because I was also made believe that my family was deceased. What kind of human being can enjoy doing that to another one? This is a very important question. I could not really understand what there was inside of individuals who destroy others so easily. Later on, thinking carefully, I think that they would do anything for money.
So you are first at the airport and you notice that there is a lot of people looking at you and you wonder why. And you say, who has done this to you and why? And one of the explanations is obvious, to earn money. And why do they want to earn money this way? Because if follows an agenda, an objective. What is the nature of the attack, sex? No sex is the facade, they seem to be motivated by someone else. No wonder they make a lot of efforts to make sure that the facade is the most important part of everything. The noise that they create is great, and there are a lot of people biased. It becomes a dangerous experience. Above all, a lot of young people in the street comment on how they are going to kill you. When something like that happens with people that you have never seen in your live, something serious is going on. So not to go out of the airport seems to be the best solution. Then, suddenly, without even noticing it, you start falling asleep in the most unexpected places, and a strange sensation of indifference invades your whole body. You start looking for protection and place to sleep in the most unbelievable places, that is why you end up sleeping at the entrance of the Security Area of the airports. Now I realize that I had to be like something very, very odd in that area, but, what could I have been humanly done - so tired, frightened and paralyzed in my emotions I was. Now I realize that the workers of that area were very generous with me.

After being asked to move from that area, very politely, by some of the workers. I moved to the area of the stairways that are located near the small trains that lead to the airport. It is impossible to describe the effects of the cold wind in me while staying on that area. I did not have the proper clothing, so the wind and the cold hit me hard, very hard. The only way that I have to describe it is that it penetrated my mind. That was also the first time that I came across with songs that had been created against me - in a public place. There was a truck that did not miss opportunity to do it, broadcasting the songs at very high level of sound. That truck was located at an official place. At that moment I had run out of cash, and that made the things worse. I was completely at the mercy of the circumstances. I could perceive that it was a situation of one group protecting and another acting against you, without you ever being in a position that allowed you to evaluate who was doing what. From that area I moved to other areas, trying to get some cover from the wind. It was an unsuccessful attempt. I started to be known in the areas as some kind of vagabond. I guess that it was the moment that my personal aspect started to change too; from normal to careless person - I did not have a place to take a bath while undergoing all this.

I called a phone in the city where they told me that people in the airport would take me to a shelter in the city. At the airport they told me that they did not make such long trips. So I remained there for the specified time. Suffering in those stairways was my first experience. After a week, I was asked to move out of the area of the airport.
Then I moved near the construction place. Far from the airport. I created some sort of rudimentary barrier to the wind against the wind - with papers - during the evening. I stayed there almost a month and a half. It is impossible to explain that living at the open has on you, given the cold temperatures.
After that I went to live under the trees. With the animals. They turned out to be more rational than certain human beings.
There are times that you have to be grateful without knowing exactly how to address the issue. I think that I should be grateful to some people of the area related to the third airport for saving my life. At the same time, it was the first place where some other people used EH with great intensity over me, taking my suffering to another level, so I am writing this with a mix of emotions. My life was changed for ever during those days. They wanted to carry out their agendas on a "soft target", it was the time that some people liked torture, so they selected me - for a different kind of torture. They were everywhere.
And their power to confuse was immense. Even though my body has no sign of doing what they are promoting. Even though I have never done the things the way they say and there is absolutely no proof of it, by repetition the expect to win - and they have means to repeat constantly, everywhere - without giving me the possibility of defending myself. That is why it is so important that sites like ffchs exist.
This is a world of sudden changes, one of this sudden changes got me and has targeted me for destruction. I am trying not to be destroyed.
The use of EH/OS is one of the main weapons. The ultimate purpose is to create a breakdown in the individual. I am trying to remain strong. But I am alone or almost alone.
In the beginning, I was curious because every time I tried to explain something related to the harassment, I was send to a mental place. How is possible that if I was describing facts the result of my description was always the same? Then, when in the first quarter of this year I started to review litereature and make my own research, I realized that there is a strategy followed for the destruction of the T.I.'s. Sending to the person to the psychiatrist - without in fact needing it - is one of the steps followed in this strategy. I am very concerned about this and hope that this document is read by mind capable of separating the influence of the media from the research for the truth.
It is difficult to describe how you feel when everybody around you is spreading that you are mortally ill. That is why I will try to do. Lets go back to "when I lived under a tree".

I spent part of the time month after month, trying to find what the next symptom would be. I do not want to get into details in how the mind tries to correlate what is happening in your body with the description that is made in the books and with the attitude and aggressiveness of the people around you. When you put in al together, it is something really destructing for your soul.
From those moments on, I do not what really happened to my life. The best way to put it is that the difficult conditions had a very had effect on my body and mind.
Little by little I started to see that there was some tiny possibility that some of the information that they were broadcasting about my family were wrong. I had spent most of the money that was left in calling home. If I was going to believe the bad news that had been propagated all over, on the other side of the line there would be another person 'simulating' to be part of my family. I tried to confirm with that person, several times, if they were who they said they were. I spent months in disbelieve. Remembering such an horror damages my mind, but it is necessary that those who read these words understand what was done to me and the effect that it had on my emotional life.
Since they followed me, they tried to reinforce that information in places where nobody would have suspected. I went to a legal agency and, when waiting in the line to see a legal person, one of the men in charge of distributing the documentation among the ones that were going to help said - I clearly heard him - "He is crazy, his parents are dead". That is the kind of situation that I had to undergo for a lot of time. That very day, when I asked for help in clarifying that situation, I was referred, very politely, to a mental institution. As if I were denying a fact.
I spent a lot of energy , dismay and effort to confirm that my family was alive.
I spent almost a year and a half in the believe that I was HIV positive.
I was threatened and vilified in the streets. Mainly because of the promotion through songs and videos.
What else should I add to express how my mind and body underwent torture.
This is, briefly explained, what I endured when I lived under a tree.

What else should I
( To be continued)
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Third Airport

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:26am
Here they did me real well. Through a very careful scheme they orchestrated a series of actions that made me - and many other people - believe that I was HIV positive. That was the beginning of a nervous breakdown on my part and the beginning of numerous attacks on the part of people around me. Everywhere I went. I had never confronted a situation like that, so I believed everything was planned by these individuals. The people in the airport - employees included - started to comment about this situation.
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The Woman

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:25am
The woman has a specific objective. To try to destroy my life.
She uses lies and tries to enforce them. Power has been given to her and she uses it.
The first time that I perceived the presence of this woman was while living in LA. I heard her voice while trying to make a reservation for a plane. She was out, by the window of the room of the apartment. I was lying on the floor while there was a couple lying on a bed. They were trying to help me.
Inexplicable the reservation of the ticket of the plane was taking more than one hour and a half. At some point I called the bank - my bank at that moment - and they advised me not to give these people more information, that everything was too suspicious.
In the meantime, the woman, outside of the window, was making comments trying to imply me involved in something in the room. I stayed on the floor and the window of the room was open.
Puzzled and intrigued at why everything had been so difficult for me to handle with the ticket, the man in the couple offered to buy the ticket with his credit card. It was the only way that I could take a ticket for the airplane.
A woman entered, in the meantime, the room. While the reservation was made. And I said to myself why is this woman in there?
I heard a voice, very similar to this woman's voice, while I was working at the First Hotel in M.B. The woman with this voice was located in between the two wings of the hotel. She did not stop in a campaign where she was like turning all the employees of the hotel against me by showing them pictures or something. The faces of the people changed immediately when they passed by the area where the woman was. She did it openly, not showing herself to me , but letting me know, by hearing her voice , that she was present and harassing me - better destroying my job opportunities.
There were also other people who went directly to the office of the manager to change his opinion about me. After one week of training the person who was training me started to see mistakes that he had not seen before and scripts were having the wrong information even thought I typed the right one. Also I was considered not fast enough for some procedures relatively simple. At some point I heard this employee - talking about me with another person - "I am going to make him suffer ".
I think I saw the woman again at least in two more opportunities. When I was at Third Hotel she went to the lobby of the hotel. Apparently at that moment she counted on the collaboration of the employee of the hotel who was training me, because he laughed at everything that she said. She said something like "he pretends to know but is non-capable of doing it right " , in a way clearly insulting. She was referring, again, to the training that I was undergoing with a program for the hotel. The rest of the personnel just listened. I have already said that she had some authority.
Once in S.F. I heard the voice near the Canton restaurant, when I was homeless and she was referrring to me, again in derogative ways.
Then in the C.R. she passed by the auto where I was sleeping saying that she was going to "empty her gun on me. And then she made a slur of specific meaning.
The whole environment around this woman was plagued with negativism and danger. She did not miss an opportunity to make may life misserable. I need to remember, but I think I saw her two other times.
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The TimeSetters

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:24am
setters play chess in a different way.
They play with events that the other chess player does not see or perceive and, above all, they play with a clock that the other player does not see.
When they finish the normal and fair game, they lose. Their resentment has not finished yet. The ability of the other player has to be punished, that is why they are time setters, isn’t it?.
Time setters have power, they can go to the private live, acquaintances and events of their antagonists in chess and then transform the events at their will. That is why they are so dangerous.

Another feature of time setters is that they play with gadgets that are not known to the public, or that the public refuses to admit exist. This gadgets increase the power of the time setters to limits unknown to society, it is as if they were using devices of Mars on Earth. Why should Earth population know about it?
This is a story about time setters. Among the many things that time setters do are to harass and instigate the assassination of people. Inflicting punishments of different kind is not unknown to them. They enjoy it. Time setters know no inner happiness.
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The threats

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:21am
The threats can come in different ways and fashions.
First you feel that something is not going in the normal way in what refers to the events of the day.
Everything should be quite but it isn't. Somebody can create a disruption that seems to be almost casual, but it is not. Because they have started "their game" and the objective is to change your life. Not to let you be a steady person anymore.
After that, false calls at the work place where they are bothering you. threats from coworkers, false scenarios at lunch time - above all at lunch time. Strange jokes, strange silences, interruption of the normal flow of information when you are going to complete a project. Interruption of network communications that previously were a 100% reliable, jokes from some supervisors when they are around you, references to exotic flowers and situations and much more.
They can change the nature of the attack according to the prevailing social environment, but there will be a place where all the information is gathered, despite the time, despite all you had changed, to use it against you. Information is not necessary something that you in fact had done, it could be a combination of your actions and lies that they had fabricated. It could also be lies prefabricated against you. Or they could have accessed your belongings unlawfully and created false scenarios. They might have read your books and create situations related to them. There is an immense variety in their methods, just remember, there is one only objective, to sink you as much as they can, because they don't like you.
The most important is that you find out why they don't like you. It is not necessarily what they say. The same thing that they are trying to use against you might not be used against a person that smiles with them every day. You need to understand well what there is in their mind and that is your own homework.
It is not an easy homework to find out what there is in their minds.
Only one more advice. Their happiness is artificial. Look deep into their eyes.
And if you thing that it is not worthwhile, do not stay near them. They are dangerous.
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The man at the lobby

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:20am
The man at the lobby has a secret agenda. He feels pretty confident that everything is under control. While at the third hotel, I first noticed that he existed when he went to an elevator screaming in an odd way. While he did that, Jo.. smiled.
I asked Jo.. for the name of the guy, since his behavior was so odd in a hotel of the quality I was working on, Jo.. said that his name was Gerai or something very similar.
In the evenings, several times, I saw this man going to a corner of the the lobby and work in a computer. In the meantime, in the same lobby, other people harassed me, with Jo.. staring everything with a smile in his eyes. Simultaneously, there was a young guy, at the terrace, trying to attract the attention towards me in every human being that was passing by the side walk. This young man did this using a phone and showing pictures - apparently related to me . There was another man in the lobby - brunette - Gerai was blonde, and this man was continuously making sexual stories and explaining how specific people had been shot . He was specific about the sexual characteristics of the people who had been shot and the places where the bullets had been placed. Gerai saw all these with a poker face, Jo.. enjoyed the show. The rest of the permanent people at the lobby just collaborated.
The permanent people at the lobby were around 5 other people. There was an african-american young man that was always working on a computer , he was located to the right - from the perspective of entering the hotel. The other group was located to the left, using the same perspective. They were african-americans too. These were the ones that behaved odd an had devices that simulated the shooting of pistols. They had offensive sexual remarks when they passed by my side and death threats were issued several times. Jo.. saw all this with a smile in his face.
For several days this atmosphere persisted, growing in intensity. They tried to bias against me as many people they could recruit in the hotel.
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The Group - Second Place

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:16am
This is a very dangerous group. Apparently they existed before I started to work in this place. The residues or people with the same hateful ideology remained.
So I was in danger as soon as I entered.
They invaded your private life, fabricated stories, commercialized those stories and destroyed your reputation. In collution with officials in other positions outside of the company. Powerful media at their disposal to create false realities. Now, in the current conditions of life, this kind of group is very poweful. It is the climax of their power and they are taking advantage of it.
All the information accumulated during years in a non-legal way, conveniently mixed with false information, can provide them endless shows to destroy people. It is a very profitable business and there are many people involved. Even singers that sing hate songs.


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Apparently it was a hate group. My mistake was to create that the group was isolated. There are different groups cooperating all around the country and all around the world.
Be careful when you are mentioned that there is or there was a group at your workplace or place where you stay. You have to act immediately because disregarding the fact will only reinforce what they do.
They are very dangerous, hi-tech and heartless.
Mixing events and lying are among their specialities. I wrote specialities. So you have to investigate thoroughly to find out the reach of their specialities.
In environments where groups exist, trust no one. Or almost nobody. Sometimes there are exception.
Even though I comment about the group in place two. It is very possible that in place one there existed a group too.
Study hard to find out what they have in their plans. Their plans can affect your life.



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I was not accustomed to any of this. As a matter of fact many knowledgeable people are accustomed to this too. So It is a matter of opportunity and they are making a lot of money with criminal procedures. Until one day.
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The group - Place two

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:14am
Apparently it was a hate group. My mistake was to think that the group was isolated. There are different groups cooperating all around the country and all around the world.
Be careful when you are mentioned that there is or there was a group at your workplace or place where you stay. You have to act immediately because disregarding the fact will only reinforce what they do.
They are very dangerous, hi-tech and heartless.
Mixing events and lying are among their specialities. I wrote specialities. So you have to investigate thoroughly to find out the reach of their specialities.
In environments where groups exist, trust no one. Or almost nobody. Sometimes there are exception.
Even though I comment about the group in place two. It is very possible that in place one there existed a group too.
Study hard to find out what they have in their plans. Their plans can affect your life.
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The Group

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:12am
There were different groups interacting with me.

The Group
The events described in this video are associated to
events described in shoppersworld.ueuo.com

This man had powerful friends
By hacking my phone and blackmailing me
he thinks that in the middle of a hotel of Miami Beach
he can do what he is doing
It is racism, xenophobia and much more. All mixed

This is Hotel Claremont 2008
I called different agencies during a case of evident
harassment with the criminal intent of generating maximum
stress and discomfort in me. None of the agencies answer the call.

At somepoint a police woman came to the hotel
But she did not ask me anything.
On the contrary, she talked to Joshua, who was one of the
people participating in the criminal activities.

Both in the inside and the ouside of the hotel
there were groups with the objective of destroying my mental
stability.

So I left the place and I thought:
What can I do with my life?
The person who hired did not know that she was going to be
fired because of what was perceived as her sexual orientation.
Guys who are supposed to protect me are saying that I am dead
when I get near their facilities. When I go to the beach guys
who are supposed to e neutral are singing songs like "No TV'here"
when they are training on the sand.
No future, my mind says, and I go to the airport of Fort Lauderdale.

I arrived to the Airpor and the group is waiting for me.
But I didn't know. How could I.
They started spreading that I was HIV positive as if they had done a test at
the airport.
And that moment trasnformed my life.
Also they are implicating in their comments that I had had sexual relationships
that had lead to this situation.
It is exactly at that moment that your mind goes to Mars.
How is it possible, you think.
And, instead of focusing your attention in what is happening
in front of you. Obvious concerns about your health make you shift your attention.
And that is precisely what they want.
It is precisely the moment that the group starts to win, because they are creating a
show and you don't know that the show is about you.
Remember TI, their real objective is to make money out of you and kill you.
If they confuse you, they have achieved their goal.
And they confused me.

I started to think of reasons why I should have been contaminated
Do they do it at the airport, at the hotel, I West Hollywood ?
Were they going to do it in order to make real what was false?
Thay is how I almost die that day.

But they had another surprise for me.
When I arrived to San Francisco International Airport
they had added to everything that they had invented that my parents were
dead and that I had laughed when I had been notified.
With this kind of actions they managed to destroy all credibility and good
action towards me. On the contrary, many people wanted to kill me.
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The Future

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:11am
What will happen in the future is very simple. Or the people of the world ask persons like P. and T. what they are doing or they start joking and disregarding at the way they handled info.
Since everything has a pro and against, within few years will see that persons like P. and T., who only believe - barely - in themselves , will manipulate their information and consequently, other people will be laughing at them.
As far as now in the last 5 days alarming news about the way that information in manipulated in the Internet have hit the news in the web.
The above explained is not going to be so easy as reading a couple of paragraphs.
P. and T. have their supporters, good and bad guys. For your personal knowledge, they are very well organized and are champions of "mixing info", putting together the real with the unreal and creating products. Their people are in different positions and levels, in many places. I made the mistake of underestimating the capacity of planning of these individuals , don't do the same.
Since there are other people who have undergone my same ordeal, they have also created resources that allow to learn about the different kinds of stalking and threats that can be found. If , as I hope, these people and their sites survive the times, they will be a very good resource to update your knowledge and act with the necessary celerity against those who attack you. The results of the attacks can affect your health, so please do no disregard anything. One of the best sites that I have found is :
<a href="http://www.gangstalingworld.com">Gangstalkingworld</a>
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T.R.

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:10am
When T..R.. came to my cubicle and told me that I was going to commit suicide I immediately understood that something had happened in my life. Not precisely for the better.
T..R.. was too sordid, cruel, in the way that he expressed himself. Merciless mind. False politeness. A lot of bias towards his people. It was like that with the rest. That is why he did not last too much handling the lives of others. But he hurt a lot. And apparently it was not the first time that his "methods" had been applied.
He was not incoherent to himself - when he partnered with P.L. could look sharp in his jugments. But it was not frequent to see him in that fashion.
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Second Place

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:05am
Second Place is top of the line.
Everything is in its proper place according to a long tradition.
The organization is so good that even those who tried to play a trick on you would
hesitate in doing so. So well organized it was that the bad guys would have never
figured out a strategy to destroy completely effective. They made some attempts though.
It was not until we moved to the second location in the second place that they could
materialize their intentions. Second location was not that good.
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Third Hospital

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:00am

Where electronic devices were used that accelerated my cardiac rhythm and I was subjected to different kind of hostilities by some members of the hospital. Including making comments to induce me to believe that I was HIV positive. It seems to be that it was part of a plan.  The patient that was at the same room as mine started to ask me to do some sort of sex stuff, apparently in coordination with other people from the groups that provoked me outside.

There were both patients and employees involved in what happened.

They were aware of my calls to other states and did things - very bad things - to let me know that "they knew". In certain aspects, I went out of the hospital worse than I entered it. If I were going to describe what happened with me at that moment is that, besides fear, I was paralyzed. Later the side effects of the pills contributed to increase the way that I felt, "very strange".


Some other people in the same hospital helped me to get better in what refers to other illness.  One of the doctors helped me to find out that I was not HIV positive. He detected what was going on in my mind - due to the atmosphere created since 2008 by a team of specialists that could track down every place I visited and made emphasis in creating that idea in me, with the cooperation of people inside of healthcare facilities and even people who were supposed to help me -  and asked me about what was going on, but I was afraid of telling what was going on with some employees. These employees had also reinforced the theme of me being HIV positive, they also described how I was going to be killed by criminals, it was becoming like a standard in certain groups of criminals to make reference to me. The way that they operated in the areas where I lived was assigning you a nickname and then they elaborated over it in their clips and songs, their fans got the message without a need to mention my real name. I realized about that when the people referred to me by a nickname repeatedly when I was in the street. That way they felt free to go on with the harassment. In the hospital happened the same.

When you denounce the harassment then they say that you are imagining it. And then it comes the classification of the person as schizophrenic. That way the harassers and criminals think that they can go on doing this kind of actions forever.

It was precisely at this moment that I started to research what was happening with me and if there were other people who had suffered similar situations. It was then when first I head of the TI's, and obviously, I realized that the techniques used over me corresponded to what happened to other people. And more.

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Second Hospital

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 9:00am

Here is where there was a simulation - I want to believe a simulation - of shooting at a hospital. With a lot of people of the personnel enjoying, and inclusive collaborating, with whatever was in this hospital that I had to call 911. Many things happened at this place. I spent almost 6 hours wandering about the external areas of the hospital in fear of going out. A lot of hate songs were played outside. The people with authority in the hospital ignored me. It was fear at its best.

One of the guys in charge of the shooting knew about my economic situation and said that they were going to exploit it. He knew where I had been working , many things about my life. Inside of a hospital where I had just go to get cured.

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Second Airport

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:59am
February 2008
This happens before reaching destination at Fl.
A man starts talking about me with any person he finds around me.
After such an event I center my attention in him, partially. But I would have forgotten the incident if I had not found the man in the bus
that I was taking to go to Miami Beach. Immediately the atmosphere in the bus started to change while listening the man talking about me.
There was a girl that I had helped to bring her suitcases on the bus - she was a foreigner. Curiously we went to the same destination. When
I offered to help her to take the things down her look was completely different from the one she had had in the beginning. The man's comment
had had a very negative effect. If it was a coincidence or not to find him in the bus I will never now. Apparently he went also to the hotel where
I was going to stay during the evening. A very negative atmosphere was perceived there , as soon as I arrived.
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P.

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:58am
P. is not a time setter. I mean, not an original one. He just set the stages.
First time I met him there was not a bad impression, just a warning in my mind about him being different. Nowadays several articles have been written about how dangerous stereotypes like P.'s are, but I was not aware of that, just concentrated in my work , which I thought was enough. P. was going to convince me, later on, that it wasn't. P. was absolute.
So we meet the first time in an informal meeting, a one on one, and everything goes well.
Let's go to the second meeting, the one that really makes the difference. It was a very subtle, very subtle, and the same time, very powerful way of singling out a person and make a point of his views, so let us see what he did.
Here is P. with me and four more people, all of them but one knowing what he wants. He wants to send me a message. The end of the message is what spoils everything. If he had been subtle or direct it would have been better. But he chose humiliation and I could not accept it. He said that I would take a broom and sweep the floor if somebody said so. Our contract did not say anything in that direction, and I did not see myself any different than the rest of the others - in fact I was not different from some of them, but very similar, but he thought the other way.
From that moment on I made another note in my mind and I started to analyze "P". Not enough, as you will see later. At that moment I thought that P. was still a fair player, strange, but fair. In fact he was a different person. He was known by "his methods". I always wondered what the people meant by "methods". Weren't we working only in "technology"?
Later on I understood - maybe too late - that the concept of business for P. was much wider. In his world the human beings were puppets or less, and they had specific values that he assigned according to his special viewpoints of the life. Very special. Absent in his mind were concepts like 'mind your business', 'avoid the drama ...'. Oh no, he felt like one of the servants of the invisible chords that rule the world. Consequently the rests of the human beings, well, they were etceteras. Be careful P. is not the only one.
One important thing is to take into account this: " P. had power and he enjoyed using it. And he also found pleasure in distributing it to his followers for them to be able to do anything he wanted". This is not a comment, it is a statement.

How is that he considered "his business"?
Power abuse is part of history, and there are certain people ready to use their power against others that they consider inferior or weaker. It has happened at all times in history. And many times one of the last ones to understand the consequences of this kind of behavior are the victims. At the time that these events took place, several people passed by my side and commented , almost explicitly, that I could - and should - take some kind of action. I looked at them and thought that they were exaggerating. How would things be so terrible with respect to those people that they were mentioning. After all, weren't we coworkers?

But there were times that I really felt that something was going on in the wrong direction. Those were the times in which, implicitly, without even wanting it, I tried to establish a comparison between what acted on me and how happy I felt in New York. One of such moments took place when, all of the sudden, in one of the meetings at group level in which I saw P. with a baseball bat, warning people with veiled comments. Not so veiled that I were not asked, a little after his words, what I was gathering of his comments. So I gave a candid answer, too technical perhaps. The one who was asking wanted something more related to humankind perhaps. Something that allowed him to understand that I knew the kind of people I was dealing with it. But I was too happy at that time. I did not know well the people I was dealing with.

Despite all the kindness and good heart that I put in all what was happening, there were events going on that raised my alarm up to certain point. For example: "At working hours, before going to lunch and entering the car, the lights were on" - this was what one could consider an impossible event, given how secure was the place where the car was. But with the time, it has come to my mind that I can associate this kind of situation to the moments that, while living in Palm Beach, I entered the apartment and found sections of the room with the light on - despite having made sure they were off before living the premises.

Another unusual symptom of something going out of place was the pleasure that some of his associates found in letting know that they knew what was happening with me when I was out the job place. At least at lunch time and before arriving to the job. For example: One day I was running late and I was had a ticket at the highway. As soon as I arrived to the job place one of his friends let the rest of the people know that he knew about it.

It was always something that almost looked like "impossible" to me. Probably because the only thought of somebody committing some sort of invasion of privacy was an impossible event to me. It should be understood that I lived in places where those actions were out of the mind of the normal people. Later on, when one person started to make comments and act histrionically through the cubicles at lunch time, was the moment that I received some of the above mentioned warnings - like exhorting me to do something. When things went to an extreme point. I was practically forced to complain about it. That is when I went to O. and mentioned it almost at the same tone of voice that the person in charge of harassing me was using through the cubicles. So instead of stopping, now the events got a higher intensity at lunch time. A few weeks later, this person was sent to work in a project in another place. <strong>Temporarily</strong>. The word temporarily is important in this context.

But lets go back to P., I just wanted to make sure that you understood what was the meaning of "full authority" in his mind.

When was the first time that I heard that expression? When the meeting where I was asked about what I gathered from it took place. There was a special emphasis is his voice when he was talking.

Another important feature was his way to assign "rights". I came across with his curious expression about this when I was attending a meeting with a few members of the technical team. Referring to an exchange between T. and me, he said, "he told him which his rights were". And then he added something that for some reason I do not want to mention here. I thought to myself, is he trying to be funny? Does he really think that he has the power to assign "rights" over his subordinates in a technical matter? Is he dreaming of power ? Life was going to demonstrate me that he was really serious and that he thought that he had the right to do whatever he wanted with his subordinates. After all, "didn't he have 'connections'?". Didn't he know about "time setting"?.

And it is precisely at moments like this that I think of the second meeting with P., the one with selected people of other teams, and I try to find a reason why I think of that meeting so recursively. Perhaps because I tie what happened little after the meeting with what happened the rest of my life after that. Maybe because it was the first time that after getting together with a person something happened that let me think that perhaps I was not in the right place to be happy. Maybe because terrible things happened in my life as a result of the actions of the "time setters". One of the participants in the meeting had to do with the internet. He was supposed to be a specialist.

By the time that I was going this meeting there was an ambiguous thinking in my mind about who he thought he was. And who he really was. It looked to me like somebody really ambitious who had been given power. Was he a Scarpia? Had he read Doctorow? Did he believe in Turandot? Which was his favorite music? What was the use that he really associated with the Internet. What did he "really" know about "rights" and up to which point was ready to acknowledge or ignore that concept. Those thought were like in layers of my mind but, at the same time, I had to work. And at the same time, those were other times, when fear was something unknown to most of the people, when we trusted each other much more and when there were procedures set in place to avoid that somebody, whoever the somebody was, abused of his or her powers. They could attempt to do so anyways. Didn't them know how to time set? I should confess, that I should have kept it very simple. If somebody enters in your room when you are not there, raise your alert to the maximum, do not trust only in reports that you make and try to know about who did as if it were a matter of do or die. Because at the moment that something like this happens you are under attack, may be subtly at the moment that you perceive it. Certainly blunt when the attack develops.

But, curiously, I realize that the main responsible for what has happened is me. I should have taken P. seriously since the very beginning. There was no poetry in that man. And what is more important, he did not want any poetry associated with those who surrounded him. Was it hate the predominant feeling in his mind. I am not quite sure. But certainly the procedures that he followed were not very orthodox. When the people mentioned "his methods", there was a significant silence after these two words, something that let you thinking for a long time. What the heck were they trying to say? Again, my mistake, after listening to statements like this one should stay at home and think for at least three days - without leaving the room - then one would see like a little piece of ice on the sea, and that piece of ice would be the top of the iceberg. But you cannot think in those terms when you are happy, you like music and you think that knowing about Oracle and Microsoft is going to resolve everything in this world.

A little digression here. It was precisely my love for being efficient with products from Microsoft and Oracle what kept me apart of the realities associated with P.

Remember this, even though you could be happy in an environment where people who work with this products, there is a strong likelihood that at some point people like Pl. appear, they will be surrounded by elements who might not be so concern about technical issues.

If you find that kind of environment you only have two choices: Either leave the place immediately or divide your mind and time in two and dedicate part of your time to study how to deal with them. Otherwise you are an easy prey of the non-technical ones. Their values are different. And for them, remember, you are nothing but a competitor, somebody who can be substituted. Nothing else.

But let us review the hate issuers. Wasn't it one of his associates, T. the one who came to my workplace and let me know - and the cubicles around - that I was going to commit suicide? Oh, oh, those were serious statements. And should be carefully analyzed. At that moment I did not know how T. loved other kind of technology. It had nothing to do with client/server for business - that is what we were supposed to be doing together - though.

In the beginning, I must confess, I thought that I was dreaming - a bad nightmare - or that he was joking. Suicide?. I just had bought my synthesizer and was trying to get in touch with as many DJ's as possible to see how I promoted my music. I could not be happier. And I did it after working at the very least 10 hrs for the company. Wasn't it a good reason for everybody to be happy?. The guys that saw me going out of the company late in the evening looked serious and nice people. Everything had to be perfect.

No wonder , I was not so completely stupid, the statement was to be taken into account. I let some people - out and in the company - know about his comments. What the heck?, you do not have such an exchange everyday. In fact, some people have had a whole working life period without having such a comment made in front of them. In particular, I am the kind of person who thinks that if you say something is because you are thinking of it. So something inside of me, despite my inner happiness, said "be careful".

But well, this was T., not P. Why do I mention this here?

Well, because the power came from him, not from T., at least in that specific environment.
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M..

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:57am
No subtle intentions here either.
Throwing objects to a monkey is his favorite sport.
Did I meet him again in 2008, when applying for a job?
That would have been an extraordinary coincidence.
The one that you don't want to be happening
when you are so scarce in your money and you are about to be homeless.
Anyways, that was an out of the ordinary interview, 4 hours!!!.
And every interviewer going recurrently to the same subject of : "What would I do
if the coworkers started to act in such a way that it would bother me?
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M.

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:56am
The first moment that I started to see something in M. was when he said "he likes to run". He said this 2 hrs after me arriving to the job place after receiving a ticket "in the highway". I was always, for years, curious about how he could have known so fast about that. Before this he was acting almost normal. Almost because there was a perception in me, that proof to be right, of his browsing through the cubicles at lunch time, without saying a word, when were were working at the great building.
Someone referred to him as the confident of T. and said that he monitored other employees. I have no doubt about that. When we were in the big building he used to appear at lunch time and look over the cubicles or watch "with discretion but watching" when you were visiting people in other areas. The word that they used was not confident; it was something stronger. Was he really allowed to that or was it something that, at that time, he thought he could with impunity?
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L.L.

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:54am
Should have given me in information for a project.
Never did it. In three months. That is a lot of time for giving information without anybody noticing.
I did not act slow in his case. Knew - or imagined - what was going on but just wanted to avoid any
confrontation.
I should have figured out a solution though. It was too much time.
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K.

Posted by JulVeg on September 21, 2011 at 8:53am
Apparently neutral, K. played a rol in interrupting normal communications in the network.

Given the tasks that he was developing in the team, he was responsible, somehow, for the permissions on libraries.

He thought that his actions could be covered, but both O. and me knew of the role he played.

In one occasion I mentioned this problem directly to C.G. and she, somehow, talked to him and the problem was fixed. Temporarily. All this at the second location.

The problem with me interacting with this guys is that I had already studied client/server before meeting them. Some of their actions were transparent to me due to my former experience in labs where the techniques that they were using had been practiced over and over again by people that attended classes. It was like seen students doing the same exercises - refusing privileges, blocking ip's, etc.

But at that time there was already more than that. I had some hints, only that I could not believe it.

They had already gone beyond certain limits in communications.

He was one of the favorites of T.
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