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The perps?
As for me, my God is stronger than all of them combined.
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I call it bullying still.
Some people call it protecting each other's back.
I call it a sick attempt to cover up.
1 You have searched me, Lord,
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
5 You hem me in behind and before,
and you lay your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.
7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you. ***
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
17 How precious to me are your thoughts,[a] God!
How vast is the sum of them!
18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.
19 If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.
23 Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.
*** should only apply to God.
anyone trying to approximate this is trying to play god
the very sin Lucifer gave in to
the sin of spiritual pride.
The Mind Control of a young man, seduced, because his father was going to testify at this hearing. Its not about gun control; its about mind control. Wait till it happens to you. You'll think those thoughts are your own..... until you realize they are not yours. My mind had obsessive thoughts for two months last Christmas, couldnt push them out, but they always lasted two hours, exhausting and exact. Then anger - same thing. Then I realized.... When I realized that someone else was messing with me, I spoke up. It doesn't happen anymore to that extreme. Now they just try for hours to bring me down. Buzz my implant to make me sad or extremely low - I fight it and ALWAYS win now. Now that I know my government has turned against me. Thank you Marty Weinberg, Kevin Cockle and Terry Garraway. Weak monkeys.
best wishes n love lots
denny
“You just think about your own family, your own son, your own daughter, or grandchildren who might be, the next time they go to a doctor, the subject of some medical experiment that they are not even told about. I do not think there can be many things more un-American than that
Do you regularly suffers from headaches that you think is migraine? When you go out, do you notice an increase in pedestrian that feels like mobbing you or sorrounding you which follows a commotion? Do you normally hear noise from cars being slammed or a barking dogs when getting out of the house? Have you been subjected to a regular stressful situation at work that happens several times? Have you been diagnosed with depression? Do you feel pain in different parts of your body particulary when exposed to electrical appliances like TV, microwave oven, radio, computers? And do you noticed hearing voices mostly coming out from faucet while water dripping or heating vents other than your own?
These are a common signs of a TI, short for targeted individual.The web-site, organized stalking Nanaimo, has a more detailed information about the signs of TI, it also provides statistics about the criminal harasment reported to the police, 10,756 incidents of criminal harassments where 13 percent involves multiple harassers.
If you review the TI symptoms and you realized that you have experienced most of it, you have to brace yourself for a long haul because this is just the start of a long journey of discovery. You maybe in an early stage of harassment or maybe in a later stage, where high tech devices are already being performed on you. You can do something about it and start taking control of your life. After you read this, you may want to continue with your research. Start with mind control and then continue with electronic harassment devices. The more you learn, the more you will realize how you can minimize the destruction your harasser will inpose on you.
The first thing you have to put down in your mind and will be your mantra is this: “You are not alone and you are not a bad person.” Organized stalking is a crime and it is against the basic principle of this country, Canada. Human rights violations is crime in Canada. Harassing an individual is a crime. Invading one’s property including destroying a person’s own property or other possessions is a crime. Defaming someone’s name, including destroying their source of income is a crime. Attacking someone with high tech device that will eventually deter some one’s well being including their health and spiritual well being are crimes.
After you realized all the downfall that happens in your life, you’ll realized that all the hardship and pain are all NOT your fault. You’re mind has been attacked and your judgement has been manipulated. You will then have the chance to face your harasser and make the necessary decision to minimize their evil motives. By the later stage of being a TI, your harasser, mostly known as the “perp” short for perpetrator (I call them “Crerp,” short for crazy perp, as they are really crazy bunch), will use V2K (voice to skull) visibly. As they will assume possession. You will realized that they have been using this machine most of the harassements stages as they whisper commands in low frequency that you think it was you talking. This is the reason why most of your decision in life has been skewed with your eventual downfall, job loss, health loss, relationship gone. Upon discovering this, your perp will most likely identified themselves and you will most of the time have the opportunities to converse with them. These converstations mostly are to modify their protocol or techniques of daily harassments. Their main motive is to get your emotional reactions, embarassment or guilt, on specific trigger. Trigger that they will induced in your mind, through words or visual, awake or even in your dreams.
With your research, you will learn how to combat this and you will have to adopt some of the techniques to your own personal situation. You will also realized that this is not just one group harassing one individual, you will find out that you are not alone. TIs around the world are probably doing the same thing as what you are doing now, researching about the same things your are experiencing. This is a global crime involving different segments in society which includes the medical community, so if you think of consulting your doctor about your health symptoms specially your lack of sleeps and very weak immune systems, I would suggest you think twice. Many TIs have been misdiagnosed and most even committed suicide due to prescibed depression drugs that increase the possibility of suicide while being mentally harassed.
Fear is the first thing you will have to learn to fight. As they will control all your decision whether your basic needs like when to eat or even your basic hygiene needs. The best way to combat this is when they command you to make some “poo” tell them “sure this is for you.” or if they command you to take a shower, just say, “sure, to get rid of the filth you spew in me.” You may also just ignore them as what I normally do and just look at it as reminder like a personal secretary. They are there to impose their supposed to be “power” over you as if they think they “own” you. Remember you are a human being and not a puppet, slave, a pet or a thing.
Fear is a negative way of thinking, the secret is always think positive. And always think of the positive twists. As they harass you mentally, laugh at them. You will learn later on how to filter their harassments as they will continue their scripts and you will be familiarized with their routines. As you learn more with OSEH, short for organized stalking and electronic harassment, you will find out how to minimize the destruction and pain the harasser has been imposing on your well being over the years. Getting mad is the first emotions they wanted to see. It will be wrong not to cry or show emotions as people who are close to you maybe involve but you will pass this stage and learn how fight on and move on with your life.
Learning to alleviate the pain from electronic harassment is the first stage of your discovery. Wearing thick coat and a hat while sleeping, to protect your head and body parts during the electronic attacks are one options. Some sites suggest techniques on how to cover your sleeping area with anti-radiation materials but this will cost you. Finding an area far from electronic grid lines, vents or appliances like fridge also helps. With this attacks, your health is at utmost importance, so you will have to find ways to make yourself healthy. With all this information, you will have to make one important realization, your life has been taken away from you. You will have to take it back. While this maybe an impossible tasks, this will be the most challenging test for you, as a human being. Some important sites to start your research:
- Raven1,net
- Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance
- International Alliance Against Covert Electronic Abuse
- Meiklejohn Civil Liberties Institute
- Mind Justice
- National Whistleblowers Centers
- The Hidden Evil
- Are you targeted?
- On_Gangstalking
- McKinney: Microwave Harassment and Mind Cotrol Experiments
- Organized Stalking – Nanaimo
From the interview done by radio host Greg Szymanski, Julliane McKinney elaborated the TI phenomenon that are happening globally.
How does DEW direct energy weapon being used to TI? In order for DEW be used, harasser needs to see where is the targets, most use imagery device, miniature cameras, microphones, info-red imaging device. Softwares can be downloaded to PC or laptops to emitt DEW. Microwave powers are connected to electronic grid lines. Microwave energy is only one aspect of the entire electro-magnetic frequency spectrum and it can be lethal, has to be pulp while emmitting energy to avoid the target being cook.
Most TI are not a threat to national security, TIs are lucrative talents for experimentations. Neighbours are solicited, segments of society are being hired and harassments are being financed and biddings are being held for each contracts from different groups.
It is impossible for TI to find peace as harassments are 24/7 for all the TI’s lives. Surveillance are being done by entering someone’s property and investigation are being done to create a pattern. Preliminary stalking are done to soften TI followed by electronic harassments.
Common description for TI: for women: too independent, too intelligent, tend to live alone, predominantly career minded. For men: smaller proportion, high profensity to lie, low self-esteem, lack of religion.
TI must not look for a reason or the “WHY.” Because TI are targetted for the following reasons: To capture a percentage of populations to control to eventually install a dictatorship. Testing the latest weaponry. To control and choreograph the harassment techniques as TI are just disposable objects.
If upon medical check-up your doctor declared they can’t figure out what is wrong with you, they’re part of harassment and it would be good decision not to take any medication they may prescribed.
Why Harass an individual? Harassers see the activity as being part of the community as a sense of oneness. Harassment can be broadcast globally for entertainment purpose and for identification of TI.
Harassment activities are constantly modify to suit a protocol as TI reacts to specific trigger.
There are no laws prohibiting the use of this weaponries. Harassment are global in scope and virtually identical.
Harasser belongs to one religion and TI normally don’t belongs to any religion.
Moving to another cities are just a waste of time as Harassments are globally wired and protocols follows TI wherever they go.
There is an increase of OSEH since early 1990s as technologies developed and has not changed after 9/11.
For the complete interview, CLICK HERE.
RELATED READING:
- OSEH Related Books
- A Practical Survival Guide To OSEH
- PERP 101
- Gang Stalking, An Overview
- Washington Post Article
- Book Review: Terrorist Stalking in America
- Book Review: Cause Stalking
- Gang Stalking – A Serious Question (VIDEO)
- Organized Gang Stalking What You Need To Know (VIDEO)
- Science Channel Admits Microwaves Used in Mind Control (VIDEO)
- Mad Labs: Audio Spotlight (VIDEO)
- History Channel: Mind Control America’s secret War (VIDEO)
- National Stalking Awareness Month Press Conference (VIDEO)
best wishes n love lots
denny
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For all of you looking to search for non-profits here is a non-profit search engine who makes their non-profit living by being a data base for nonprofits. So they go scouring the internet for non-profit organizations in which to add their names to their data base
Don't know if they have found all of them but it would appear they found some of FFCHS data
but I couldn't find either one of greg gamaches so called nonprofit/not for profit foundations.
i couldn't find The Greg Gamache Foundation nor could I find the
We Are A Federally Liscensed Tax Exempt Not For Profit Dedicated to Eradicating EH Globally of his so called non profit of
Federation Resistance Global Electronic Harassment Opposition Party
but i did find FFCHS
http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/14-1999503/freedom-from-covert-harassment-surveillance.aspx
FREEDOM FROM COVERT HARASSMENT AND SURVEILLANCE
- Physical Address:
- Johnson Vly, CA 92285
- EIN:
- 14-1999503
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denny32
i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps
mates are brill anyways
Diane O'Donnell
i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar
e unsuccessful in controlling you.
you still have your son?
so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting
Tarik
hellos sheri
feck it all hey
dboots
hi sheri
yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.
they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life
passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this
lol
shit lmfao
yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!
lol
its life
the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can
with iot as they say lifes too short
:-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!
hello Tarik
lol,they grow when someone dies
its like the film the ring
we got 7 days
lol
and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died
it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!
yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off
from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!
too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently
wonder what the cost of all this is
could help millions
instead of killing um
i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so
yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont
i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh
yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.
i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*
take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for
a drink just topiss um off
lol
tc you
:-)
yeah, at least i have a car!
dont they torture whilst u drive
only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.
focus is very good,dont give in
stay strong and things will change
Tarik
get up stand up for your right
i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs
michel, may i ask you a question?
stand n deliver do pp
denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)
it is pretty good
nice ending with duncan
what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me
HVP
JVP
most of it seemed very credible
i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?
i have
stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program
or jesuits venture program
ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down
i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'
but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc
may i pose a question to everyone?
sure
what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?
or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)
who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?
hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?
someone knows someone at least
i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war
what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific
but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place
charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?
i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business
dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization
gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list
giane, may i ask what organization?
ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office
if it's ok
or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?
does good will count?
save the children, nspcc
are you friends with ngo members?
no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously
same here
before
i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another
and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos
nope
direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?
but my town has multiple ngos
will any of us be hit ?
what do you mean by will any of us be hit?
did you see about the earthquakes in uk?
denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?
sure
you used the word cudgel not me
cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.
we're being diverted by semntics here
ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics
because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?
i still am unsure what that means
are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????
each and every ngo not each and each
you are not answering my question
you are trying to muddle it with semantics
but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from
or you need to know what i know?
we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek
i already know enough to pin the people involved
week
NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear
how clearer still do you want it to be?
will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?
means so he can understand it
governmentalienrobotgod
osi you there?
no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?
governmentalienrobotgod
osi is that you?
are payback a mf??/
osi is who?
governmentalienrobotgod
stand and deliver, are you osi informers?
mother f--k
nope
governmentalienrobotgod
dboots suck a dick
thanks
the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another
no name etc
depending on the mood
noticed that
why change names
wont make no difference
governmentalienrobotgod
are you guys eh victims?
yeah woohoo lucky git me is
what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems
lol
it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me
ffs
you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???
what like a milf
lol
dboots you are being diversionary
swallowed a dictionary
no i am not you just don't like my answers
can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context
dboots has got a point
why are you pretending i didn't answer
how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining
Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
i am not presumptuous
how is a NO a not even explaining????
what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it
?and why is it a different thing entirely
because paybacks are another thing entirely
please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND
do you understand that
if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?
o dom
like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?
well i think you are about to put words into my mouth
nope. i asked you to spell it out
and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words
if you say it is wrong you can explain further
because I already stated NOPE
good explanation
about stalk n harass
you also said this:
dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
larry,
that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
they messing mate big time with pc
like what means?
and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?
you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project
uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?
LJC:hay
yeah they are
mines real slow
i called your # no answer
check your phone to see my # and hit recall
cant as its no number mate
ok must be blocking me
just says call witheld
what are other means of paying back?
dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
ok ill try again
ok
Zilke
Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.
what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE
Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.
unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong
but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means
naw it is collecting evidence
it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to
that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that
i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback
A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.
no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to
i have to close picepink its slowing me down
i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity
Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.
plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment
what do u mean slowing u down
nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation
if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?
well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right
and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out
dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?
They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.
perhaps you should scroll up and re read
how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out
like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment
you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception
you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks
it will also define how you contextualize things
sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you
forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks
or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of
well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????
bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!
i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback
... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge
curious about people who exact payback
but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???
it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it
because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways
i try to talk to them
or stay away from them
or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them
no vengeful ways
hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing
dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now
NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them
no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize
and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives
if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive
the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system
I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with
in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.
it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them
worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me
these were people i trusted
who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern
i didn't know they were behind the rome statute
i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim
all that happened after were but set-up
to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..
directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)
May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?
no
you have 2 posts you just put up so you know your posts are not being blocked
3 the day before so what posts are you all of a sudden worried about that you need post this conversaTION???
this conversation nothng really got settled
dboots, why are you so worried? This is a public forum. what are you so worried about?
i have been posting conversations before that i deem relevant to the matters being discussed. This iis a public forum and the matters being discussed are relevant to us victims here.
you, of all people should know that
somehow i felt today you were trying to make me into something that i am not according to how you see things in your world I am not that world
because when you said you were being bullied and harassed, and i posted the convo which will show what happened, you wanted it posted.
you weren't being bullied or harassed so ????
now that we do not share the same view on this particular topic, you are curtailing my right to document a public conversation?
what gives?
you weren't being bullied or harassed that is what gives
the buck stops with you?
and who said i am documenting it because i am being bullied and harassed?
where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i am documenting it so the discussion about this will have a record. why can't i do that?
because of the manner you are going about this
your tunnel vision is not my tunnel vision
uh???? did i even say thio ?? -- dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
dboots, why are you so defensive?
why have you made this issue about you?
NO STAND I TYPED THAT i never said you typed that please take time to read things and maybe you wouldn't get them out of context so often
you asked - dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i didnt say you bullied or harassed me
i said i am documenting this
i am documenting this discussion made on a public forum
because some times we type and paste at the same time someone else is making a comment so we have to go back a few comments to understand
ok. you typed before you saw my statement.. scroll up
anyway, i am documenting this
seeing now how you are so defensive about this thing
this is a public forum
the rule doesn't change because you want it to
we have the same rights you and i
the only thing i am defensive about is the manner in which you were trying to put words into my mouth that i don't like
you cant curtial my rights just because you want to
please don't put words into my mouth
sigh... how many times do i have to explain this... i am asking you to explain things because i dont want to misinterpret you
you said you choose not to answer
what other means you think constitutes a payback
anyway, this is but a cyclical coversation
good day
Here's what I can do for you since you seem to be so worried about it.
i will not allow access to it but i will document it still since with your reaction i deem i should protect myself.
i will post this entire conversation and you can view it to check it's veracity
once you see it is the actual copy of our discussion here, i will not allow any access to it by changing view settings.
that will address your concern that you dont want it viewed just by anoyone, yet it will also address both our sides since i'll be able to document what actually transpired.
sounds fair?
- denny32
i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps
mates are brill anyways
i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar
e unsuccessful in controlling you.
you still have your son?
so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting
Tarik
hellos sheri
feck it all hey
hi sheri
yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.
they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life
passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this
lol
shit lmfao
yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!
lol
its life
the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can
with iot as they say lifes too short
:-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!
hello Tarik
lol,they grow when someone dies
its like the film the ring
we got 7 days
lol
and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died
it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!
yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off
from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!
too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently
wonder what the cost of all this is
could help millions
instead of killing um
i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so
yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont
i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh
yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.
i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*
take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for
a drink just topiss um off
lol
tc you
:-)
yeah, at least i have a car!
dont they torture whilst u drive
only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.
focus is very good,dont give in
stay strong and things will change
Tarik
get up stand up for your right
i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs
michel, may i ask you a question?
stand n deliver do pp
denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)
it is pretty good
nice ending with duncan
what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me
HVP
JVP
most of it seemed very credible
i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?
i have
stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program
or jesuits venture program
ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down
i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'
but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc
may i pose a question to everyone?
sure
what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?
or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)
who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?
hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?
someone knows someone at least
i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war
what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific
but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place
charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?
i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business
dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization
gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list
giane, may i ask what organization?
ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office
if it's ok
or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?
does good will count?
save the children, nspcc
are you friends with ngo members?
no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously
same here
before
i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another
and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos
nope
direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?
but my town has multiple ngos
will any of us be hit ?
what do you mean by will any of us be hit?
did you see about the earthquakes in uk?
denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?
sure
you used the word cudgel not me
cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.
we're being diverted by semntics here
ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics
because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?
i still am unsure what that means
are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????
each and every ngo not each and each
you are not answering my question
you are trying to muddle it with semantics
but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from
or you need to know what i know?
we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek
i already know enough to pin the people involved
week
NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear
how clearer still do you want it to be?
will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?
means so he can understand it
governmentalienrobotgod
osi you there?
no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?
governmentalienrobotgod
osi is that you?
are payback a mf??/
osi is who?
governmentalienrobotgod
stand and deliver, are you osi informers?
mother f--k
nope
governmentalienrobotgod
dboots suck a dick
thanks
the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another
no name etc
depending on the mood
noticed that
why change names
wont make no difference
governmentalienrobotgod
are you guys eh victims?
yeah woohoo lucky git me is
what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems
lol
it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me
ffs
you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???
what like a milf
lol
dboots you are being diversionary
swallowed a dictionary
no i am not you just don't like my answers
can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context
dboots has got a point
why are you pretending i didn't answer
how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining
Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
i am not presumptuous
how is a NO a not even explaining????
what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it
?and why is it a different thing entirely
because paybacks are another thing entirely
please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND
do you understand that
if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?
o dom
like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?
well i think you are about to put words into my mouth
nope. i asked you to spell it out
and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words
if you say it is wrong you can explain further
because I already stated NOPE
good explanation
about stalk n harass
you also said this:
dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
larry,
that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
they messing mate big time with pc
like what means?
and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?
you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project
uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?
LJC:hay
yeah they are
mines real slow
i called your # no answer
check your phone to see my # and hit recall
cant as its no number mate
ok must be blocking me
just says call witheld
what are other means of paying back?
dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
ok ill try again
ok
Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.
what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE
Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.
unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong
but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means
naw it is collecting evidence
it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to
that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that
i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback
A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.
no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to
i have to close picepink its slowing me down
i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity
Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.
plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment
what do u mean slowing u down
nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation
if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?
well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right
and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out
dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?
They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.
perhaps you should scroll up and re read
how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out
like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment
you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception
you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks
it will also define how you contextualize things
sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you
forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks
or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of
well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????
bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!
i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback
... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge
curious about people who exact payback
but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???
it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it
because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways
i try to talk to them
or stay away from them
or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them
no vengeful ways
hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing
dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now
NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them
no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize
and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives
if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive
the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system
I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with
in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.
it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them
worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me
these were people i trusted
who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern
i didn't know they were behind the rome statute
i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim
all that happened after were but set-up
to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..
directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)
May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?
no
you have 2 posts you just put up so you know your posts are not being blocked
3 the day before so what posts are you all of a sudden worried about that you need post this conversaTION???
this conversation nothng really got settled
dboots, why are you so worried? This is a public forum. what are you so worried about?
i have been posting conversations before that i deem relevant to the matters being discussed. This iis a public forum and the matters being discussed are relevant to us victims here.
you, of all people should know that
somehow i felt today you were trying to make me into something that i am not according to how you see things in your world I am not that world
because when you said you were being bullied and harassed, and i posted the convo which will show what happened, you wanted it posted.
you weren't being bullied or harassed so ????
now that we do not share the same view on this particular topic, you are curtailing my right to document a public conversation?
what gives?
you weren't being bullied or harassed that is what gives
the buck stops with you?
and who said i am documenting it because i am being bullied and harassed?
where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i am documenting it so the discussion about this will have a record. why can't i do that?
because of the manner you are going about this
your tunnel vision is not my tunnel vision
uh???? did i even say thio ?? -- dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
dboots, why are you so defensive?
why have you made this issue about you?
NO STAND I TYPED THAT i never said you typed that please take time to read things and maybe you wouldn't get them out of context so often
you asked - dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????
i didnt say you bullied or harassed me
i said i am documenting this
i am documenting this discussion made on a public forum
because some times we type and paste at the same time someone else is making a comment so we have to go back a few comments to understand
ok. you typed before you saw my statement.. scroll up
anyway, i am documenting this
seeing now how you are so defensive about this thing
this is a public forum
the rule doesn't change because you want it to
we have the same rights you and i
the only thing i am defensive about is the manner in which you were trying to put words into my mouth that i don't like
you cant curtial my rights just because you want to
please don't put words into my mouth
sigh... how many times do i have to explain this... i am asking you to explain things because i dont want to misinterpret you
you said you choose not to answer
what other means you think constitutes a payback
anyway, this is but a cyclical coversation
good day
I found links that point to legit organizations using ARG to mask organizational projects.
Here's a discussion on the main room today. I raised the same question on the members online:
- denny32
i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps
mates are brill anyways
i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar
e unsuccessful in controlling you.
you still have your son?
so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting
Tarik
hellos sheri
feck it all hey
hi sheri
yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.
they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life
passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this
lol
shit lmfao
yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!
lol
its life
the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can
with iot as they say lifes too short
:-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!
hello Tarik
lol,they grow when someone dies
its like the film the ring
we got 7 days
lol
and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died
it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!
yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off
from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!
too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently
wonder what the cost of all this is
could help millions
instead of killing um
i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so
yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont
i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh
yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.
i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*
take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for
a drink just topiss um off
lol
tc you
:-)
yeah, at least i have a car!
dont they torture whilst u drive
only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.
focus is very good,dont give in
stay strong and things will change
Tarik
get up stand up for your right
i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs
michel, may i ask you a question?
stand n deliver do pp
denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)
it is pretty good
nice ending with duncan
what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me
HVP
JVP
most of it seemed very credible
i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?
i have
stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program
or jesuits venture program
ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down
i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'
but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc
may i pose a question to everyone?
sure
what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?
or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)
who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?
hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?
someone knows someone at least
i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war
what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific
but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place
charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?
i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business
dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization
gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list
giane, may i ask what organization?
ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office
if it's ok
or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?
does good will count?
save the children, nspcc
are you friends with ngo members?
no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously
same here
before
i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another
and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos
nope
direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?
but my town has multiple ngos
will any of us be hit ?
what do you mean by will any of us be hit?
did you see about the earthquakes in uk?
denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?
sure
you used the word cudgel not me
cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.
we're being diverted by semntics here
ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics
because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?
i still am unsure what that means
are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????
each and every ngo not each and each
you are not answering my question
you are trying to muddle it with semantics
but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from
or you need to know what i know?
we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek
i already know enough to pin the people involved
week
NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear
how clearer still do you want it to be?
will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?
means so he can understand it
governmentalienrobotgod
osi you there?
no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?
governmentalienrobotgod
osi is that you?
are payback a mf??/
osi is who?
governmentalienrobotgod
stand and deliver, are you osi informers?
mother f--k
nope
governmentalienrobotgod
dboots suck a dick
thanks
the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another
no name etc
depending on the mood
noticed that
why change names
wont make no difference
governmentalienrobotgod
are you guys eh victims?
yeah woohoo lucky git me is
what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems
lol
it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me
ffs
you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???
what like a milf
lol
dboots you are being diversionary
swallowed a dictionary
no i am not you just don't like my answers
can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context
dboots has got a point
why are you pretending i didn't answer
how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining
Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely
i am not presumptuous
how is a NO a not even explaining????
what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it
?and why is it a different thing entirely
because paybacks are another thing entirely
please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained
WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND
do you understand that
if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?
o dom
like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?
well i think you are about to put words into my mouth
nope. i asked you to spell it out
and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words
if you say it is wrong you can explain further
because I already stated NOPE
good explanation
about stalk n harass
you also said this:
dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong
larry,
that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
they messing mate big time with pc
like what means?
and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?
you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project
uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?
LJC:hay
yeah they are
mines real slow
i called your # no answer
check your phone to see my # and hit recall
cant as its no number mate
ok must be blocking me
just says call witheld
what are other means of paying back?
dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back
ok ill try again
ok
Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.
what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE
Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.
unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong
but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???
hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means
naw it is collecting evidence
it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to
that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that
i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback
A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.
no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to
i have to close picepink its slowing me down
i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity
Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.
plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment
what do u mean slowing u down
nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation
if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?
well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right
and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out
dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?
They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.
perhaps you should scroll up and re read
how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out
like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment
you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception
you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks
it will also define how you contextualize things
sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you
forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks
or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of
well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????
bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!
i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback
... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge
curious about people who exact payback
but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???
it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it
because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways
i try to talk to them
or stay away from them
or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them
no vengeful ways
hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing
dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now
NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them
no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it
will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize
and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives
if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive
the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system
I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with
in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.
it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them
worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me
these were people i trusted
who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern
i didn't know they were behind the rome statute
i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim
all that happened after were but set-up
to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..
directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)
May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?
Torturers, criminals against humanity:
Your any “telepathy” for inducement and misleading is not useful. I don’t believe that the third even the fourth country get involved in my torture case. There is no reasons for me to do something against any countries in the world, including Canada, because I have no interests in politics. Your such telepathy is very, very dangerous.
1. Is this site a project of a non-government organization(s) or a registered organization(s) dealing with human rights>
2. If yes, what is/are the organization/s' name?
3. If yes, which countries does the organization have a presence on?
4. Who are the proponents in the Philippines?
