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  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps

  • mates are brill anyways

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar

  • e unsuccessful in controlling you.

  • you still have your son?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting

  • Tarik

    hellos sheri

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    feck it all hey

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hi sheri

  • 3:29 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.

  • 3:30 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life

  • passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this

  • lol

  • shit lmfao

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • its life

  • the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can

  • with iot as they say lifes too short

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    :-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!

  • hello Tarik

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol,they grow when someone dies

  • its like the film the ring

  • we got 7 days

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died

  • it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently

  • wonder what the cost of all this is

  • could help millions

  • instead of killing um

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont

  • i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh

  • 3:40 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.

  • i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for

  • a drink just topiss um off

  • lol

  • tc you

  • :-)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yeah, at least i have a car!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dont they torture whilst u drive

  • 3:44 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.

  • 3:45 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    focus is very good,dont give in

  • stay strong and things will change

  • 3:46 AM
  • Tarik

    get up stand up for your right

  • 4:12 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs

  • 4:30 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    michel, may i ask you a question?

  • 5:29 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    stand n deliver do pp

  • 5:36 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)

  • 5:37 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    it is pretty good

  • 5:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nice ending with duncan

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    HVP

  • JVP

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    most of it seemed very credible

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i have

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program

  • or jesuits venture program

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    may i pose a question to everyone?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sure

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?

  • someone knows someone at least

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    giane, may i ask what organization?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if it's ok

  • or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    does good will count?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    save the children, nspcc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are you friends with ngo members?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    same here

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    before

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nope

  • 5:49 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but my town has multiple ngos

  • 5:51 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    will any of us be hit ?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by will any of us be hit?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    did you see about the earthquakes in uk?

  • 5:53 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    sure

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you used the word cudgel not me

  • cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    we're being diverted by semntics here

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics

  • because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i still am unsure what that means

  • are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????

  • each and every ngo not each and each

  • 5:59 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you are not answering my question

  • you are trying to muddle it with semantics

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or you need to know what i know?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i already know enough to pin the people involved

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    week

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how clearer still do you want it to be?

  • will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    means so he can understand it

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi you there?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi is that you?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are payback a mf??/

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    osi is who?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    stand and deliver, are you osi informers?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    mother f--k

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    dboots suck a dick

  • thanks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another

  • no name etc

  • depending on the mood

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    noticed that

  • why change names

  • wont make no difference

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    are you guys eh victims?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah woohoo lucky git me is

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ffs

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what like a milf

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots you are being diversionary

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    swallowed a dictionary

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i am not you just don't like my answers

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dboots has got a point

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    why are you pretending i didn't answer

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not presumptuous

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    how is a NO a not even explaining????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it

  • ?and why is it a different thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because paybacks are another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND

  • do you understand that

  • 6:10 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    o dom

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i think you are about to put words into my mouth

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i asked you to spell it out

  • and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words

  • if you say it is wrong you can explain further

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because I already stated NOPE

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    good explanation

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    about stalk n harass

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you also said this:

  • dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    larry,

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they messing mate big time with pc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what means?

  • and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?

  • 6:15 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    LJC:hay

  • yeah they are

  • mines real slow

  • i called your # no answer

  • 6:18 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    check your phone to see my # and hit recall

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    cant as its no number mate

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok must be blocking me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    just says call witheld

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what are other means of paying back?

  • dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok ill try again

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ok

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.

  • 6:24 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    naw it is collecting evidence

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    i have to close picepink its slowing me down

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what do u mean slowing u down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation

  • if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right

  • and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    perhaps you should scroll up and re read

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will also define how you contextualize things

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks

  • or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback

  • ... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge

  • curious about people who exact payback

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it

  • because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways

  • i try to talk to them

  • or stay away from them

  • or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them

  • no vengeful ways

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now

  • 6:38 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them

  • 6:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it

  • will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives

  • 6:41 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive

  • 6:43 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system

  • I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with

  • in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.

  • it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them

  • worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me

  • these were people i trusted

  • who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern

  • i didn't know they were behind the rome statute

  • i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim

  • all that happened after were but set-up

  • to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..

  • directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)

  • 6:50 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?

  • 6:53 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no

  • you have 2 posts you just put up so you know your posts are not being blocked

  • 6:57 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    3 the day before so what posts are you all of a sudden worried about that you need post this conversaTION???

  • this conversation nothng really got settled

  • 6:59 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots, why are you so worried? This is a public forum. what are you so worried about?

  • 7:00 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i have been posting conversations before that i deem relevant to the matters being discussed. This iis a public forum and the matters being discussed are relevant to us victims here.

  • you, of all people should know that

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    somehow i felt today you were trying to make me into something that i am not according to how you see things in your world I am not that world

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    because when you said you were being bullied and harassed, and i posted the convo which will show what happened, you wanted it posted.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you weren't being bullied or harassed so ????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    now that we do not share the same view on this particular topic, you are curtailing my right to document a public conversation?

  • what gives?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you weren't being bullied or harassed that is what gives

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the buck stops with you?

  • and who said i am documenting it because i am being bullied and harassed?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am documenting it so the discussion about this will have a record. why can't i do that?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because of the manner you are going about this

  • your tunnel vision is not my tunnel vision

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    uh???? did i even say thio ?? -- dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • dboots, why are you so defensive?

  • why have you made this issue about you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    NO STAND I TYPED THAT i never said you typed that please take time to read things and maybe you wouldn't get them out of context so often

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you asked - dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • i didnt say you bullied or harassed me

  • i said i am documenting this

  • i am documenting this discussion made on a public forum

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because some times we type and paste at the same time someone else is making a comment so we have to go back a few comments to understand

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    ok. you typed before you saw my statement.. scroll up

  • anyway, i am documenting this

  • seeing now how you are so defensive about this thing

  • this is a public forum

  • the rule doesn't change because you want it to

  • we have the same rights you and i

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    the only thing i am defensive about is the manner in which you were trying to put words into my mouth that i don't like

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you cant curtial my rights just because you want to

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    please don't put words into my mouth

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    sigh... how many times do i have to explain this... i am asking you to explain things because i dont want to misinterpret you

  • you said you choose not to answer

  • what other means you think constitutes a payback

  • anyway, this is but a cyclical coversation

  • good day

  • 7:12 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    Here's what I can do for you since you seem to be so worried about it.

  • i will not allow access to it but i will document it still since with your reaction i deem i should protect myself.

  • i will post this entire conversation and you can view it to check it's veracity

  • 7:26 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    once you see it is the actual copy of our discussion here, i will not allow any access to it by changing view settings.

  • 7:27 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    that will address your concern that you dont want it viewed just by anoyone, yet it will also address both our sides since i'll be able to document what actually transpired.

  • sounds fair?

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DBOOTS conversation on NGOs

  • denny32

    i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps

  • mates are brill anyways

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar

  • e unsuccessful in controlling you.

  • you still have your son?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting

  • Tarik

    hellos sheri

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    feck it all hey

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hi sheri

  • 3:29 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.

  • 3:30 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life

  • passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this

  • lol

  • shit lmfao

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • its life

  • the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can

  • with iot as they say lifes too short

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    :-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!

  • hello Tarik

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol,they grow when someone dies

  • its like the film the ring

  • we got 7 days

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died

  • it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently

  • wonder what the cost of all this is

  • could help millions

  • instead of killing um

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont

  • i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh

  • 3:40 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.

  • i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for

  • a drink just topiss um off

  • lol

  • tc you

  • :-)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yeah, at least i have a car!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dont they torture whilst u drive

  • 3:44 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.

  • 3:45 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    focus is very good,dont give in

  • stay strong and things will change

  • 3:46 AM
  • Tarik

    get up stand up for your right

  • 4:12 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs

  • 4:30 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    michel, may i ask you a question?

  • 5:29 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    stand n deliver do pp

  • 5:36 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)

  • 5:37 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    it is pretty good

  • 5:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nice ending with duncan

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    HVP

  • JVP

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    most of it seemed very credible

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i have

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program

  • or jesuits venture program

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    may i pose a question to everyone?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sure

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?

  • someone knows someone at least

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    giane, may i ask what organization?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if it's ok

  • or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    does good will count?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    save the children, nspcc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are you friends with ngo members?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    same here

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    before

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nope

  • 5:49 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but my town has multiple ngos

  • 5:51 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    will any of us be hit ?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by will any of us be hit?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    did you see about the earthquakes in uk?

  • 5:53 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    sure

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you used the word cudgel not me

  • cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    we're being diverted by semntics here

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics

  • because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i still am unsure what that means

  • are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????

  • each and every ngo not each and each

  • 5:59 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you are not answering my question

  • you are trying to muddle it with semantics

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or you need to know what i know?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i already know enough to pin the people involved

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    week

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how clearer still do you want it to be?

  • will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    means so he can understand it

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi you there?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi is that you?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are payback a mf??/

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    osi is who?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    stand and deliver, are you osi informers?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    mother f--k

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    dboots suck a dick

  • thanks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another

  • no name etc

  • depending on the mood

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    noticed that

  • why change names

  • wont make no difference

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    are you guys eh victims?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah woohoo lucky git me is

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ffs

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what like a milf

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots you are being diversionary

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    swallowed a dictionary

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i am not you just don't like my answers

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dboots has got a point

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    why are you pretending i didn't answer

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not presumptuous

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    how is a NO a not even explaining????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it

  • ?and why is it a different thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because paybacks are another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND

  • do you understand that

  • 6:10 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    o dom

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i think you are about to put words into my mouth

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i asked you to spell it out

  • and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words

  • if you say it is wrong you can explain further

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because I already stated NOPE

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    good explanation

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    about stalk n harass

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you also said this:

  • dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    larry,

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they messing mate big time with pc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what means?

  • and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?

  • 6:15 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    LJC:hay

  • yeah they are

  • mines real slow

  • i called your # no answer

  • 6:18 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    check your phone to see my # and hit recall

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    cant as its no number mate

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok must be blocking me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    just says call witheld

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what are other means of paying back?

  • dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok ill try again

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ok

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.

  • 6:24 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    naw it is collecting evidence

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    i have to close picepink its slowing me down

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what do u mean slowing u down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation

  • if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right

  • and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    perhaps you should scroll up and re read

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will also define how you contextualize things

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks

  • or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback

  • ... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge

  • curious about people who exact payback

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it

  • because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways

  • i try to talk to them

  • or stay away from them

  • or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them

  • no vengeful ways

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now

  • 6:38 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them

  • 6:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it

  • will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives

  • 6:41 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive

  • 6:43 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system

  • I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with

  • in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.

  • it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them

  • worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me

  • these were people i trusted

  • who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern

  • i didn't know they were behind the rome statute

  • i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim

  • all that happened after were but set-up

  • to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..

  • directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)

  • 6:50 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?

  • 6:53 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no

  • you have 2 posts you just put up so you know your posts are not being blocked

  • 6:57 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    3 the day before so what posts are you all of a sudden worried about that you need post this conversaTION???

  • this conversation nothng really got settled

  • 6:59 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots, why are you so worried? This is a public forum. what are you so worried about?

  • 7:00 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i have been posting conversations before that i deem relevant to the matters being discussed. This iis a public forum and the matters being discussed are relevant to us victims here.

  • you, of all people should know that

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    somehow i felt today you were trying to make me into something that i am not according to how you see things in your world I am not that world

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    because when you said you were being bullied and harassed, and i posted the convo which will show what happened, you wanted it posted.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you weren't being bullied or harassed so ????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    now that we do not share the same view on this particular topic, you are curtailing my right to document a public conversation?

  • what gives?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you weren't being bullied or harassed that is what gives

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the buck stops with you?

  • and who said i am documenting it because i am being bullied and harassed?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am documenting it so the discussion about this will have a record. why can't i do that?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because of the manner you are going about this

  • your tunnel vision is not my tunnel vision

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    uh???? did i even say thio ?? -- dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • dboots, why are you so defensive?

  • why have you made this issue about you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    NO STAND I TYPED THAT i never said you typed that please take time to read things and maybe you wouldn't get them out of context so often

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you asked - dboots where did i bully or harass you?????????????

  • i didnt say you bullied or harassed me

  • i said i am documenting this

  • i am documenting this discussion made on a public forum

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because some times we type and paste at the same time someone else is making a comment so we have to go back a few comments to understand

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    ok. you typed before you saw my statement.. scroll up

  • anyway, i am documenting this

  • seeing now how you are so defensive about this thing

  • this is a public forum

  • the rule doesn't change because you want it to

  • we have the same rights you and i

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    the only thing i am defensive about is the manner in which you were trying to put words into my mouth that i don't like

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you cant curtial my rights just because you want to

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    please don't put words into my mouth

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    sigh... how many times do i have to explain this... i am asking you to explain things because i dont want to misinterpret you

  • you said you choose not to answer

  • what other means you think constitutes a payback

  • anyway, this is but a cyclical coversation

  • good day

Read more…

I found links that point to legit organizations using ARG to mask organizational projects.

Here's a discussion on the main room today. I raised the same question on the members online:

  • denny32

    i can make friends very quick as still got my soh which helps

  • mates are brill anyways

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i understand what you say that isolating helps to keep mind focused because you can get on with using your energy to fight them, but the paradox is that if you are always out chatting etc...keeping focused on something else, they perps have a harder time framing you, and you won't respond so they ar

  • e unsuccessful in controlling you.

  • you still have your son?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    so no problems,although they stopped me having a girlfriend which was upsetting

  • Tarik

    hellos sheri

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    feck it all hey

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hi sheri

  • 3:29 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes they are determined to ruin any relationship, i've had the same experience, to makes us lonely that we will behave liked kidnapped people (patty hearst for example) and 'want 'to be friends and give our secrets and desires to the perps.

  • 3:30 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they can have all that in exchange for me to relive what was an amzing life

  • passed up a woman who was similar in looks to jessie j but better because of this

  • lol

  • shit lmfao

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, i know what you mean, but i wouldn't convert to their cause for anything, i wouldn't want to be like them. well that's just shit Denny!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • its life

  • the life we have got and just gotta do the best thing you can

  • with iot as they say lifes too short

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    :-D it's still my life, but i do wonder what they do when they're targets die? i know from close experience that they usually throw a big party! isn't that sik?!

  • hello Tarik

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol,they grow when someone dies

  • its like the film the ring

  • we got 7 days

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    and i think they get a reward, i certainly saw perps suddenly buying cars etc when someone died

  • it's been 14 years for me at least, so they've fucked their budget on me in that case!!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah mine gets a tenner and a pat on the back everynight for pissing me off

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    from what i've seen they give them vodka and mobiles!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    too true what a waste in uk,they gave the nhs 140 million recently

  • wonder what the cost of all this is

  • could help millions

  • instead of killing um

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i love the nhs, i believe in it strongly...after living in the usa many years i know what's coming here soon...terrible system usa..and i'm sure the deals were already made with the big health insurance companies in usa years ago, like in 1995 or so

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah but we pay for our nhs through national insurance the us dont

  • i prefer not to pay national insurance and get my own tbh

  • 3:40 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yes, and that's fair. the usa you have to pay it yourself or if you are lucky and company has a program you may pay between 50-60% of costs monthly yourself, and it's often in the $100's. you don't know how awful it's going to ge here when you have to pay for all of your own doctor visits.

  • i'm off for the night denny, i hope you get a good night's rest. take care..:-*

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    take care diane,have a good sleep,will have to meet up for

  • a drink just topiss um off

  • lol

  • tc you

  • :-)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    yeah, at least i have a car!

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dont they torture whilst u drive

  • 3:44 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    only started recently, but still not too bad. i drove in florida when i lived there, was ok. some people say it's difficult cos perps want us to drive to kill ourselves, but i'm so used to them trying to get me to kill myself that i just focus harder.

  • 3:45 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    focus is very good,dont give in

  • stay strong and things will change

  • 3:46 AM
  • Tarik

    get up stand up for your right

  • 4:12 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i found a link for the jesse ventura show that was on last night I just posted it on blogs

  • 4:30 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    michel, may i ask you a question?

  • 5:29 AM
  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    stand n deliver do pp

  • 5:36 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    denny, go to Deca's page to watch jesse ventura program on tis, it's brilliant.:-)

  • 5:37 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    it is pretty good

  • 5:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nice ending with duncan

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what a relief to see someone so well known take on our problem. what do you think of the man who was the 'architect' of the ti torture, Dr. Robert Duncan- seemed credible to me

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    HVP

  • JVP

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    most of it seemed very credible

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i had never heard of any of this before, the GWEN towers, anyone else?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i have

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    stands for Jesuits Volunteer Program

  • or jesuits venture program

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ground wave emergency network the back up grid for in case the internet goes down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i noted that the main areas for ti's was california and nyc, both places that i have lived, and both full of 'liberals that critisised gov of Reagan and Bush'

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but it is only for the military and certain infrastructures, like banking industry and shipping industry like trains etc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    may i pose a question to everyone?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sure

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    what about the black out of 2003 on the east coast of usa and then 2 wks later in uk? a trial run using same stations?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    or a need to leak more energy into the system (leak more work into the system)

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    who amongst the group here are members of a non-government organization? or a foundation? or friends of people who are members of such groups?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm edoesn't that cover just about everyone on the blanket?

  • someone knows someone at least

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i am not a member of any group, except charity donations, but always participated in demonstrations for women's rights and abortion choice rights, also anti reagan and bush's iraq war

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    what type of non government organization are you referring to? can you be just a little more specific

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    but so were some of the people who gang stalked me in nyc during said protests, so that's how they divide and conquer in the first place

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    charity donations - are you the one donating? or are you the one organizing or getting the donations?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    i donate when i can afford to - does it matter what groups, my business

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots, for this particulat instance, any non-government organization

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    gee that is pretty damn broad isn't it of an unnarrow list

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    giane, may i ask what organization?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    ngo's has become a rather vague title of late...ex politicians always start them when they leave office

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if it's ok

  • or may i ask which particulat marginalized group the organization is focusing on?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    does good will count?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    save the children, nspcc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are you friends with ngo members?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    no, i hardly have any friends since being a ti!! obviously

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    same here

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    before

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i wasn't running around with any group that cared one way or another

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and when you join demonstrations, or coordinate for charity organizations, there's a specific network of ngos

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    nope

  • 5:49 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    direct question: will you take cudgels for people or organizations who are using the system meant to help to stalk and harass people they have personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but my town has multiple ngos

  • 5:51 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    will any of us be hit ?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by will any of us be hit?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    did you see about the earthquakes in uk?

  • 5:53 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    denny, may i ask you the aforementioned questions, too?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    sure

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you used the word cudgel not me

  • cudgels 3rd person singular present, plural of cudg·el Noun A short thick stick used as a weapon.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    we're being diverted by semntics here

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    ok so perhaps you could ask what u want more directly without so much sematics

  • because ngo's is a pretty darn huge category

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i still am unsure what that means

  • are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organized system to stalk and harass all of us????

  • each and every ngo not each and each

  • 5:59 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you are not answering my question

  • you are trying to muddle it with semantics

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but i need all the facts for which you are basing your question upon us of where you are coming from

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or you need to know what i know?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    we had earthquakes in uk today,manchester was hit apparently,not a big one tho,japan was hit aswell this last we6ek

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i already know enough to pin the people involved

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    week

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    NO I AM NOT you worded the question I have no choice but to try and figure out exactly what you are trying to ask because your question is not that clear

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how clearer still do you want it to be?

  • will you use a system to stalk and harass a person you have personal issues with?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    means so he can understand it

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi you there?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    or will you do it for somebody you know? harass a person using an organized system you or a friend has access to?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    osi is that you?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    are payback a mf??/

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    osi is who?

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    stand and deliver, are you osi informers?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    mother f--k

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    dboots suck a dick

  • thanks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the only name i use is this.. the previous names i used are traceable since i just replace one with another

  • no name etc

  • depending on the mood

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    noticed that

  • why change names

  • wont make no difference

  • governmentalienrobotgod

    are you guys eh victims?

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    yeah woohoo lucky git me is

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by this: but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    woohoo someone has the answer to end all your problems

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will.. i can check who's stalking and monitoring me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ffs

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you don't understand the concept paybacks are a mother f--ker???

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what like a milf

  • lol

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots you are being diversionary

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    swallowed a dictionary

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i am not you just don't like my answers

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    can you not just answer? i wouldnt ask if i dont want it spelled out in yoour context

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    dboots has got a point

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    why are you pretending i didn't answer

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how could i decide if i like or not like an answer the one posing it is not even explaining

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    Me no i wouldn't stalk and harass a person i have personal issues with. but if you are asking are paybacks a mf well that is another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not presumptuous

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    how is a NO a not even explaining????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what do you mean by "are paybacks a mf"? - i ask because i do not understand how you are framing it

  • ?and why is it a different thing entirely

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because paybacks are another thing entirely

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    please scroll up and see what in particulaer i want explained

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND

  • do you understand that

  • 6:10 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    so you mean you are willing to do it to avenge what you perceive as wrong being done on you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    o dom

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what type of wrong qualifies for a vengeance?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i think you are about to put words into my mouth

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i asked you to spell it out

  • and i am gicing you a feedback on how i understood your words

  • if you say it is wrong you can explain further

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    because I already stated NOPE

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    good explanation

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    about stalk n harass

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you also said this:

  • dboots WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND do you understand that 6:10 AM dboots if someone does me wrong big time and a door opens that i can return the favor , you can bet your bottom dollar that i will return that favor of doing me wrong

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    larry,

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    they messing mate big time with pc

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    like what means?

  • and if it's an organized NGO project , will you call it stalking and harassment?

  • 6:15 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you still seem to be putting things into one huge pile of organized ngo project

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    uh? isn't that the main question i posed? are you saying i should frame my question according to your perception?

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    LJC:hay

  • yeah they are

  • mines real slow

  • i called your # no answer

  • 6:18 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    check your phone to see my # and hit recall

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    cant as its no number mate

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok must be blocking me

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    just says call witheld

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what are other means of paying back?

  • dboots that doesn't mean i said i would stalk and harass another. their are other ways of paying back

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    ok ill try again

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    ok

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Pc can be sent in loop, you think you chat with someone, instead, you chat with police. Its the same with mail.

  • 6:24 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    what's wrong with talking to the police? aren't they supposed to know about the crime being done on us?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Its just an example, dont care if I talk to the police.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    unless they too can be comprmised and will use the system to abuse the victims instead of the perps - talking to the police isn't wrong

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but then does taking pictures of those who stalk n harass us constiture harass n stalking back???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    hmmmm stand we each have our owns ways and i prefer to keep them to myself I think the FACT THAT I ANSWERED YOU NOPE I WOULD NOT STALK N HARASS ANOTHER SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE - nope , it doesn't... your other answers you posed only means you can be creative about your means

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    naw it is collecting evidence

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it may also mean you WONT directly do it but you can ask someone to

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    that is bs somehow i knew you were going to go put words in my mouth please don't do that

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am just giving you a feedback of how your answers sound, you can explain further by defining the means you will exact payback

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    A friend of mine have sent mail, he knows he is under generel surveillance. There isent any point in taking the mail, but the mail have never reached me.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no i don't have to explain anything that i don't want to

  • 9143070683?profile=originalLarry Joseph Cameron

    i have to close picepink its slowing me down

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    i am not in need of defining myself but you seem to be in need in labeling me in some capacity

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    Yell at you phone, you cell is most likely tapped.

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    plus in my book definition of payback depends on the person concerned, that's why i am asking you to define it so your context will be the basis of the assessment

  • 9143071654?profile=originaldenny32

    what do u mean slowing u down

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    nope. i am asking you to spell it out so there'll be no room for misinterpretation

  • if it's already you defining your means, then what room does anyone have to mislabel you?

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well when you go putting words in peoples mouth that isn't right

  • and i have a right not to spell out what i don't want to spell out

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots naw it is collecting evidence - what do you mean by this?

  • 9136929672?profile=originalZilke

    They does the same in Norway, the What goes around comes around, It doesent make sense.

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    perhaps you should scroll up and re read

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    how do i get this across: your words cancel each other out - how can i even place words in your mouth when i am asking you to spell your meaning out

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    like the sentence i typed rolled around in your brain for a moment

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    you need to spell it out because your idea of payback will define your perception

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    you are going back n forth between 2 subjects. one ngo organizations doing stalking n harassing and then back to this subject of paybacks

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it will also define how you contextualize things

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    sorry don't wish to spell it out for you. i don't wish to impart my secrets to you

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    forgive me for ecplaining this but a sociopath for example will kill a person just because he doesn't like the way the person looks

  • or will harm another being just because the person happens to be the object of attention of somebody he wants to get the ettention of

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    well i am not a sociopath and what does that have to do with the tea in china and your posing a question about ngo organizations????

  • 9143070683?profile=originalDiane O'Donnell

    bloody hell, instead of arguing you should all try watching the jesse ventura video called Brain Invaders, it's on you tube if you want. more constructive than this back biting, doing the perps work for them!

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    i am not saying you are.. all i am saying is you are talking about paybak - i am asking what for you constitutes payback

  • ... because in my book, i am curious about people who commit revenge

  • curious about people who exact payback

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us???

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    it is only by talking to them will i have an ubderstanding of it

  • because in my book, i do not get back at people who have harmed me in underhanded means or harmful ways

  • i try to talk to them

  • or stay away from them

  • or at its apex, legally raise my issues against them

  • no vengeful ways

  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    hmmm not every single one who has done me wrong deserves a payback either. just some who have professed to be friends and they were the enemy in sheeps clothing

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    dboots but that means you are avoiding answering do you think each and every ngo organization is harassing and stalking us??? - i am avoiding answering this? you only posed this now

  • 6:38 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    NO, I DON't. But i so very well know that the NGOs who are will move hell and high water to convince other NGOs so they can mobilize them to create fences that will protect them against victims who will out them

  • 6:39 AM
  • 9143071080?profile=originaldboots

    no this is not the first time i made that comment you just missed it

  • will you do a favor for someone or will you do it yourself: using the ngo system meant to help people, as an organized system to stalk and harass a person you or someone you know has personal issues with? Me i still am unsure what that means are you trying to infer each and each ngo is an organize

  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    and since other NGOs do not know about their ulterior motives, they will rally at tha beack of the perps thinking they are supporting a valid cause - not knowing that they are being used to protect wolves that used their system and hid behind their battle cries to stalk and harass and destroy lives

  • 6:41 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    if i ask you : will you use the government tracking system to pinpoint a certain target is that synonymous to asking you is the entire govt pinpointing targets/victims???? - doesn't jive

  • 6:43 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    the act of a certain group of people , even if they're authorities in a specific field - doesn't translate to the act of the entire system

  • I AM SAYING THE SYTEM MEANT TO HELP is being used by scrupulous wolves who act as sheeps to harm certain targeted individuals they have personal issues with

  • in my case, for example, i didn't even have personal issues with the main perps before.

  • it just so happened i did not know they had set me up and their plan boomerannged on them

  • worst: i didn't know they could make LOTS OF MONEY by isolating me

  • these were people i trusted

  • who isolated me from my friends, my family, everyone i knew - and i thought it was but out of concern

  • i didn't know they were behind the rome statute

  • i didnt now anyone who i would be with would make money out of being with me if they will be able to establish me as a victim

  • all that happened after were but set-up

  • to make me loss my credibility.. so they could continue to establish i need to be under their wing..

  • directly or indirectly (under people they know, under people who can control me for them)

  • 6:50 AM
  • 9143070683?profile=originalMe

    May i post this main room discussion on a blog entry to ensure my posts are not being blocked?

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Torturers, criminals against humanity:

Your any “telepathy” for inducement and misleading is not useful. I don’t believe that the third even the fourth country get involved in my torture case. There is no reasons for me to do something against any countries in the world, including Canada, because I have no interests in politics. Your such telepathy is very, very dangerous.

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Why  would you facilitate events so you can block a person's every means, every option to be able to earn and stay away from you  YET when you have already forced her into the corner you can control her in, you kick her every time?

Why do you  want to place me in an area you can control? So the truth won't come out and you can torture me with all imaginable covert ways possible and still look good in the eyes of other people?

How can you even use God's blessing: Food, to hurt and harm?

The lupus symptoms are back and I know what's causing them

I have seen the installed spying apps and I know who set them up.

My mobile phones and laptops have been ruined and I know who tinkered with them.

I saw a failed MMS message before sent from my phone (i saw it because it failed sending) and I know who was just in my room. The person even reacted when I talked about the messages in my phone from people I do not know.

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Senior MK-ULTRA agents have also, seniority on Directed energy weapons and its impact on peoples lives. So last night one of these Senior MK-ULTRA officials doses the same old dirty trick any perpetrator would do and induces sleep deprivation on me, and he’s pissed. He’s got problems with me and that as a red-blooded American he’s having problems giving out the George White’s effect. This concept is best described by one of George White quotes, in that he states 'It was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill and cheat, steal, deceive, rape and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the all highest.'", Mean government. Once again I would like to thank National Defense for its blatant negligence to protect its citizens from such monstrosities. Where else might I add, where else? If we as a people didn’t have enough problems in our life’s all ready.

Sincerely, Thomas M


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Thank you.

 

I would not be the strong woman that I am now, I would not have that confidence that I, too, deserve to exist, I, too deserve to be loved had I not experienced how it is to be given worth by two people so selfless they loved me unconditionally.

 

A love so strong it served as the gate that shielded me from the realities of hatred the people around me harbored. It was only in their death that I was exposed to the torment of it all. 

 

You are no longer here to explain to me all this hatred, this vitriol. Never from you but from the people around me.

 

I know though that had I realized before, were we given a chance to talk about these heart-wrenching details, you would understand my pain even if I don't say it all.

 

I look back at the time, you came and stayed in our house just before you died. You told me you stayed in my room and slept in my bed. It was too noticeable. You never did that. Never in my twenty something years did I see you go to another house to sleep there. Only then. Right before you died.

 

It's too late to ask you now but I wonder, was there any reason beyond what I was told later?

 

I would no longer know. I wasn't at home when you were there, I was miles away, in school.

 

Was it the same reason why you asked them to go back and get me when you were already in your death bed? That caught me off-guard, I didn't even know you were in the hospital. 

 

It's too late to ask you now but I can't stop myself from wondering... Is the stern caution for my grandmother and my aunt not to accompany me but coincidental or still part of the mystery?

 

I didn't ask much from your military in-law or from the in-law who worked at the pioneering radio and television technology firm who accompanied me on a 12-hour ride to the hospital you were in.

 

When I got there, you could barely muster a word anymore, we could no longer talk except for that fleeting moment you became well enough to say, "if you weren't here in time, i'd really feel bad " and you reached so you can kiss me in the forehead, as you often did.

 

I  do not know if you wanted to say more. I do not know if it was even possible since the crowd in your room never let up, never once was it empty , you were that well-loved.

 

Whatever was left unsaid, you could no longer talk.

 

The sickness that took you forbid you to.

 

The same symptoms that shrouded me the same time it engulfed you.

 

You died.

 

I lived. 

 

I thank God though that you did not have to go through the same daily torture I am going through now.

 

If it comes out that what triggered our health concerns before is the very same harassment I am going through now, I thank God for sparing you the pain of seeing all your relationships go down the drain. I know how your life revolved around the people you loved and I know how you painstakingly strive to keep all the family ties intact.

 

I am a recipient of that effort. I thought all ties were strong because you held them all for me, for all of us.

 

You're together with grandma now. Please say sorry to her for me , please.

 

 

I could no longer be there to be with her when she became too weak. At that time i was already miles away, already in too much pain I had too distance myself from everyone. I knew she wanted me to stay with her but doing so would make them hate me, us both,  all the more. The more they hate the fact that she loves me, the more they will attack us both.

 

The relationships have never been the same since you've been gone. You were the tie that joined us all together. When you died, it went unbound.

 

You were no longer there to protect grandma from their hurtful words, you were no longer there to warn or shield any of us from jealous attacks.

 

Please thank and hug grandma for me.

 

I thank her for loving me the same way you did.

 

Unconditionally.

 

Thank you both.

 

I love you.

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To my secret family, if there is indeed any:

I have not asked for anything and will not ask for anything except this:  THE TRUTH.

I have to be honest and tell you I will never understand how you could just watch as they take my very being from me, as they do not just stifle my soul but my very breath.

It's really gonna be too difficult to understand why I was given to a parent who so obviously didn't want me right from the get-go and has punished me from then and is still punishing me till now for my very existence.

I am way past trying to mould my very soul, my very heart just so they could accept me.

I do not care anymore.

I just want out.

I just want to be freed of the lies so I can cut the cord and allow my child the freedom I was denied...

The freedom my child deserves.

I do not want her to go through the same torture I went through.

I don't want her to be punished if she grows up having a mind of her own.

I don't want her to be punished if she sees the world with eyes so clear she doesn't want to put any blindfolds on.

I want her to grow up as the person God wants her to be.

And that she can only do if I cut the cord of bondage. For her.

If you can not do it for me...

Please, please, I beg you...

Please do it for my kid, my baby.

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Toms comment on amateur arias and perpetrators…

These owners of these amateur instillations are going to use the stupid excuse that they didn’t know. For example they are given a band at say 1.5 Mhz. They will play stupid and say “oh, we thought that we can use all of that band width from 1hz to 1.5Mhz. sorry were stupid didn’t know”  but they did. These amateur transmitters can be bought like a Star Bucks. And they pump out volts to steal clients from other transmitters that are playing buy the rules. But when they pump out these stronger voltages it is cause us harm, Thank you regulators for your negligence.

 

Sincerely, Tom   

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Toms comment on amateur arias and perpetrators...

These owners of these amateur instillations are going to use the stupid excuse that they didn’t know. For example they are given a band at say 1.5 Mhz. They will play stupid and say “oh, we thought that we can use all of that band width from 1hz to 1.5Mhz. sorry were stupid didn’t know”  but they did. These amateur transmitters can be bought like a Star Bucks. And they pump out volts to steal clients from other transmitters that are playing buy the rules. But when they pump out these stronger voltages it is cause us harm, Thank you regulators for your negligence.

 

Sincerely, Tom   

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what happened to eileen-ebook what a read

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com/

She cried out… Nobody came!

 

It turned out to be a global thing…

It could

HAPPEN to ANYONE.

To PRINT this Booklet

Please visit Page:  Booklet – Public Awareness

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

What happened to Eileen?

Proudly written (2012) by (pseudonym) Wendy Newman

 

IMAGINE WAKING UP ONE DAY…

Eileen came from a middle class family.  She enjoyed her life and was known as an

honest, respectable, law abiding citizen that had everything anyone could want. Having

studied hard during her school days, she continued her education, and secured herself a

highly paid management job, lived in a lovely home in a good area, and had many loving

friends & family around her. Until one day back in early 2004 when…

Her Life Suddenly Changed,


She started to endure, Horrific experiences…

NO-ONE believed her!

 

Those that should have Helped - DIDN’T…

Her health started to deteriorate.  She often felt extremely tired & drained, with very deep

headaches that never seemed to go away.  Pulsating headaches, that painkillers never

alleviated.  A good nights sleep, soon became - a thing of the past too.  Yet doctors said

"Nothing is wrong with you Eileen".  

 

She soon started to feel Wired.

Yes wired – electrified as some sort of current ran its way through her body – unnaturally

energising her to stay awake.  Her body felt as if it had an invisible electrical cord

plugged into it, pulsating, electrocuting, burning, stabbing to the extent she was often…

 

Pinned to her bed - In severe pain -

Unable to move!

Getting out of bed in the morning became a painful event –  often dizzy with such deep

pain moving through her body,  internal burns - burning deeply as her body temperature

increased - reactivating the deadly pulsating shocks moving inside her.  As the weeks

turned into months her internal organs began to feel crushed & bruised - giving off signs

of major organ failure.  Her health complaints continued to escalate further. Yet when

tested – nothing showed up.  By now - the many doctors she had seen were…

 

 

Trying to label her as Paranoid delusional!

Eileen learnt - NOT to tell them anything further about her ordeal.  Relieved she hadn’t

told them about the invisible friends that now accompanied her, whispering sweetness

into her head, and then tormenting & mocking her randomly with evil threats!  Voices

that echoed from the universe.  Often accompanied with static sounds and piercing

pitches, penetrating deeply into her head & ears.  Sometimes - shrieking so loudly, her

head would vibrate.  Sounds - so similar to a radio playing, slightly off the station.  

 

Tormenting her 24/7

They knew everything

she did - And commented!

Privacy was now a thing of the Past!

Hell was the New Beginning!

Due to how ill she had become, she was unable to stay focused on her management job

requirements, and was finding it impossible to do a full days work.   She had no choice

but to take a lower paid, part time cleaning job. To survive financially she had to move

into cheaper, rundown accommodation and was a regular visitor to the local food bank.

Any Dreams of fulfilling Future Goals – No longer a Reality.

 

As if her ordeal wasn’t already unbearable, she would also come home to find someone

had been inside her house - and they wanted her to know!  This became a regular

occurrence.  Strange games were being played and many items got tampered with. Eg:

Her fridge mysteriously turned off at the wall, all frozen items no longer safe to eat. 

Various food items would often taste odd.  Items were also moved around in her home.

Often items she had used recently. Sometimes these items were swapped for similar

ones eg: a beige light shade being swapped for a lighter coloured one.  Carefully set for

only her to notice and swapped back to the original setting a day or so after she had

noticed.  Electrical appliances would breakdown a lot – but suddenly work when others

were present. The list of bizarre but carefully orchestrated tactics multiplied. So well

organised – Proof was impossible to get. There was…

 

Never any sign of a forced break-in.

Changing locks didn’t stop the problem.

Hidden video cameras often showed scrambled footage that others blamed on a faulty

camera. Eileen new the camera wasn’t faulty – she had had it checked, but  strangely,

the report letter stating this - disappeared from her home, and the technician later

claimed, no knowledge of having written a letter to her. The more she reported her

ordeal to law enforcement, the less she was believed, and the higher the risk became of

being committed to a Mental Institution.  Her ordeal so carefully coordinated to make her

sound nuts… 

 

She again learnt -To stop reporting her Issues 

And continued to suffer - In Silence.

Even going down to the local shops became an ordeal for Eileen.  A high amount of

strangers started to abuse/insult her for NO apparent reason.  Verbal and non-verbal

tactics were used.  Again nothing she could prove.

 

As Bizarre things were Constantly Ongoing,

Friends, Family & Colleagues…

Started to turn their backs on her. 

 

Eileen was made to feel silly when she explained one bizarre ordeal after another to

others.  No one really believed her.  Often she was asked…

"Why would someone do this to you anyway?"

"Why are you singled out?"

 

(Questions she asked herself – Questions she couldn’t answer)


Even though she had NO proof, she continued to tell the TRUTH.  She knew she wasn’t

going nuts, and had guessed that she was not likely to be, the only one experiencing

these horrific issues.  Things were too well organised for her to be the only one.  All she

wanted was to be taken seriously, and to have an investigation done, so the hell would

stop.  It seemed it was up to her to prove the impossible, as her continuous cries for help

- Had fallen on deaf ears.

So deeply Betrayed by those that should help her!

The abandonment by those that she should have been able to count on – made her feel

alone, chastised & punished.  Her invisible voice intruders, gloating, mocking, laughing -

enjoying every minute.

 

Now Isolated and more

Frightened than ever,

Eileen spent her spare time Researching

Then the Door of Knowledge Opened…

After she spent the last of her savings on a computer and started to search, she

eventually came across many others from all over the world – The number countless.

These people came from many different backgrounds, cultures, educational & income

levels, and are known as Targeted Individuals. She found that Children and pets are

not exempt

from the victim count either.  All…

Experiencing the same Devastating Ordeals as Her!

Including…

Effects of being stunned - so they cannot move!

With Excruciating Pain & Deep burning to…


Selected - Body parts.

Some felt a Beam on them at these Times…

And were able to move out of the beam range to seek some reprieve, until, they moved

back into the beam range.  Sadly when one feels they are out of the range – they often

find that they can be awoken from sleep during the night, with the beam penetrating

deep into their body.  Demonstrating, its torturous effects. 

Note:

1:

Not all victims feel this remotely run beam, as often the beam is too wide to 

    distinguish as being a beam - coming from a directed source.   But the effect of it is 

    often excruciating.

2:

Many awake in the morning feeling extremely ill and deeply burnt – to the extent the    

selected body part/s can feel bruised.

 

3:

The un-natural electrical type energy now in the body - can take days, weeks, months   

     to disperse, creating many ill health effects in the process.  

4:

Usually others near/next to the victim or in the same house, DON’T feel these    

     effects.

Resulting in the victims losing more credibility and being believed – even   

     less.

The after effects can last for Days - Weeks - Months

5:

The victim soon realises they are being watched, as no matter where they go within

    their home, when out, or in a new home or country – they eventually/continuously

    experience the same directed tactics.  Any reprieve – near impossible to get.

6: 

Often when a victim is trying to get help or close to being believed by some   

     one that may be able to help – the torturous effects reach extreme levels as an 

attempt, to prevent the victim from being able to explain their issue, to achieve the

     help needed.  

EG: Some examples

Sleep deprivation beforehand – so victim sleeps through appointment time or

looks drugged out.

Continuous electrifying currents to the head – to create extreme headache &   

           various neurological effects, including temporary memory blanks, dizziness. 

Tampering with vehicle so the appointment is missed etc

                    

                              

Some Common Symptoms

                                                  


                   

                   Electrical currents running into/through various body parts

                                    Electrical shocks to various body parts

                                        Electrical jolts to random body parts

                                        Deep pain/aches various body parts

                    Burning sensations to various body parts (often internally) 

                                Pressure in the head and various body parts

                                     Clicking/popping, sounds in the head

                                            Heart problems, palpitations

                                                     Major organ failure 

                                                        Various cancers  

                                             Involuntary body movements 

                                          Forced speech, stuttering, gagging

                                                     Slow memory recall

                                      Erased memory of set periods of time 

                            Continuous headaches (that pain relief cannot fix) 

                                        Ear aches, ear hums, buzzing, clicking  

                             Piercing high pitches & static sounds inside ears

                                                   Sensitivity to chemicals

                         (also known as MCS – Multiple Chemical Sensitivity)

                                                Sudden unconsciousness 

                                                  Irregular sleep patterns

                               Mimicked voices/conversations to the head 

(But no one is there)

Sore/achy muscles – for no apparent reason

Drained – for no apparent reason

                                                                Rashes

                        

                                      

Note:


                           A victim doesn't always look as sick as they are.

                           The pain levels these victims endure is often excruciating.

                           Pain relief – is often of NO Help to reduce pain.

                           The effects can come on suddenly and stop suddenly.

 

8

Eileen and countless others experience voices to the head…

But don’t have any history of Mental illness.

These voices often seem to be coming,

From an external source…

From behind the head,

As if someone is playing a radio tape.

Often Chattering - 24/7

Some have reported hearing recordings of other people having a conversation   

at these times.   

The voices can be in various languages to any one victim.

Often the voices mimic a loved ones voice.

Often play a love/hate game with the victim…  Commenting on what the victim

does in negative/positive ways. 

 It is not unusual for one to be awoken from a deep sleep by these voices, & at     

times to be accompanied with sharp but deep pitch’s, a hum, hissing & static

sounds.

It is CRUCIAL for the victim NOT to TRUST these voices - as the objective is to

get the victim to trust them – then to command the victim to be irrational and

worst case scenario, to commit a serious crime – such as murder.  Or to

eventually commit suicide!


Did YOU Know…

   

The cause of these voices is most likely to be, 

TECHNOLOGICAL

And in-fact - NOT likely to be,

PSYCHOLOGICAL

See why on following pages….

Modern day Technologies have Created…

An Easy Way to Invisibly…

Abuse an Individuals Body, Mind & Privacy

 

Attacking/Tracking/Torturing,

From a Remote Location.

Technologies that leave NO Trace!

Eileens voices to the Head are known as…

Artificial Telepathy, Synthetic Telepathy, Voice to skull (V2k)

(MindTech – Sweden)

The experience of "Artificial Telepathy" is really not that extraordinary. 

It’s as simple as receiving a cell-phone call in one’s head

.

Most of the technology involved is exactly identical to that of cell-phone

technology. 

Satellites link the sender and the receiver.

            A computer "multiplexer" routes the voice signal of the sender through      

            microwave towers to a very specifically defined location or cell.

The "receiver" is located and tracked with pinpoint accuracy, to within a few feet

            of actual location.

But the receiver is NOT a cell phone. It’s a Human Brain!

****************

Some history

During World War II, Military technicians working in the vicinity of radar antennas

discovered they could hear buzzing, clicking sounds. It appeared to be coming from

inside their skulls. This buzzing & clicking was being caused by the invisible waves, of

very short pulses of microwave/radio frequency signals.  Each pulse causing a single

click. More research revealed, The Mind Has No Firewall - resulting in successfully

being able to beam voices/sounds directly into an individuals head – from a remote

distance.

(More about Voices to the head) 

(Histories, Declassified docs etc of the Technologies that create this)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links - Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

Dr Barry Trower speaks out about these Technologies…

Retired Military Specialist, Physicist, former Agent.

(Re Interview: ‘30 Minute Reality Update’ )

(Re Interview:  MI5 agent Dr. Barrie Trower: Dangerous Radiation Everywhere)

Former Agent reveals - How Intelligence Agencies

Misuse Microwave Frequencies,

To

Influence People's Bodies,

Including the Brain

These Invisible Frequencies can induce…

Fake symptoms of real pain & illnesses anywhere in the body.

Fake symptoms of Mental illness to the extent a psychiatrist cannot tell the

difference. Including beaming voices into the head.  (Resulting in many

innocent victims being institutionalised!)

Real heart attacks, Organ failures as well as fake symptoms of these.

Various thoughts and behaviours – that are not naturally your own.

The various capabilities of these technologies can track, see & hear everything a

chosen victim does and says.  Even in the privacy of ones home.

 

The Usages & Effects Induced by these Technologies 

are near

Impossible to Prove!

Most of these Technologies & the usages of them are derived from Government

departments such as the Military, Intelligence agencies, various hospitals &

subcontracted to various privatised organisations.

Innocent Citizens

are Chosen Randomly

For research of…


Medical, Weaponry & Behaviour Modification/Control.

Without Notification

or Prior Consent!

This all made sense to Eileen – She now knew how the torturous beam could find her –

no matter how she tried to hide, and why no forms of extra security in her home

stopped the break-ins and tampering etc.  All tactics common to Targeted Individuals.

(To view video Interviews with Dr Barry Trower)

(More about what these Technologies & the reasons behind beaming voices into the head)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com


In Addition to these Technologies the Microchip plays a part….

Illegal Implanting of the Human Being, 

Has become a Trend.

Particularly for …

Targeted Individuals like Eileen.

 

Eileen found she had a Microchip inside her!

Without her Prior Knowledge or Consent

  (Another form of the Technologies discussed on page 9)

The RFID Microchip is usually smaller than a grain of rice and operates like a tiny

computer. Once inserted/activated it can be used for tracking, recording & monitoring…

Over the past few years the general public has been familiarised, with microchip

technologies being  inserted into bank cards, medical records/devices, passports, pets &

st

various grocery items (within the barcode) etc.  As the 21 century unfolds, more is

publicised about the amazing benefits of the microchip: Eg - To help a blind person to

see, a deaf person to hear, a paralysed person to move etc.

What is NOT discussed so OPENLY

Is

The Microchip can easily – Be used as a Weapon

When accessed Remotely - by the Wrong Hands.

And is also Susceptible to Catching a Virus & being Hacked into.

(Just like any other computer interfaced device.)

Eileen and many other Targeted Individuals have found…

Any X-rays/reports  they have had showing possible implants – vanish from the 

            practitioners office as well as any copies the victim has at home.

Most Doctors & Legal entities do NOT want to get involved as to who/how/when

these implants got inside the body.

In many cases when an individual asks for an x-ray because they feel they have

been implanted – They are often classed as mentally ill and admitted to a mental

institution, against their will – With NO x-ray done!

 

For information on what to do - If you think you have been illegally Implanted:-

Contact the ’International Center Against Abuse of Covert Technologies’

http://www.icaact.org

(For more information on the Benefits, Risks, Histories of Microchips & Victim Testimonies etc)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

Eileen Was Nothing but an Experiment…. WHY?

Eileen was made aware quite early in her ordeal, that the tactics done to her were very

deliberate, organised & professionalised.  Leaving her totally gob-smacked, when she

found out, that she was nothing but an experimental guinea pig, in the eyes of many

trusted professionals.

Many times - Questioning Herself

WHY ME?

What have I Done Wrong?

WHO is BEHIND this?


As Retired Military Specialist, Physicist and former Agent Dr Barry Trower 

(Informed us in the video interviews on page 10)…

Eileen hadn’t done anything Wrong! 

She was simply just – Chosen!


These deliberate UNETHICAL experiments for Medical, Weaponry & Behaviour

modification/control research are done by government scientists on unwitting citizens, by

beaming invisible microwave frequencies on them! Funded by many governmental

departments, such as: Military, Intelligence agencies with various stages being carried

out in other governmental departments such as hospitals, institutions, prisons etc, and

sub contracted to various privatised organisations. 

W

ith 

(

In Active use – for Decades)

Able to Track, Record, Torture & Kill 

Set to destruct any pacific organ/s of an individual – the Brain

is not exempt!

Set to mimic any  symptom of any injury or illness

Capabilities to give any real illness

Creation of Fake Mental illness  

SUICIDE - Classed as a GOOD RESULT!

(For more information about these Technologies)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

 

These Scientists are ABOVE the LAW!

(They are NOT held ACCOUNTABLE for their ACTIONS!)

Their research 

& Technologies they work with,

Are often under the,

BANNER

of CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!

Scientists employed by the Government…

PROTECTED

by the

Official Secrecy ACT!

(A License to Kill!)

 

Those working with sensitive information (usually in governmental departments) are

commonly required to sign a statement to the effect that they agree, to abide by the

restrictions of the Official Secrets Act. 

The Official Secrecy ACT - is a LAW

It’s not a contract, and individuals are bound by it whether or not they have signed it.

Signing it is intended more as a reminder to the person that they are under such

obligations. It is common to sign this statement both before and after a period of

employment that involves access to secrets. Violating this Law is punishable.

History tells us there have been

many Top Secret…

Human Experiments - Done in the past.

 

MKULTRA -  A series of illegal unethical experiments involving  covert applications of

chemicals, hypnosis, torture, sensory deprivation, electric shocks, isolation, verbal &

sexual abuse -  is a well known example of a governmental experiment!

(For more informations about MKULTRA & many proven cases of  illegal Human Experimentation)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

So Why have I NOT Heard of this Before?

There has been a lack of public awareness into these experiments both past & present.

Mainstream media outlets… 

 

Often have Silence Bans & Threats placed upon them, 

Ensuring Silence!

Enabling the Deadly Abuse to Continue!

 

Many of the Proven Cases - on previous page

Were NOT Investigated, 

Because the Victims reported their Cases.

They were In-fact…

 

Uncovered by Accident  – WITH PROOF – Decades later!

NOTE:

  Many of the recorded illegal experimentations report they are based in the U.S.

History tells us, they usually branched out into other countries too – But due to lack of

public awareness & knowledge in other countries, many cases never got an

investigation.

Targeted Individuals - all over the world, have reported their cases to law enforcement,

politicians etc - With a common result of – Ignorance & NO thorough investigation done.

Many honest doctors and legal professionals are NOT taught about these histories or

the capabilities these technologies have – resulting in NO training to investigate current

& future cases of these barbaric experiments.  Nor are many of them interested in

learning when a Targeted Individual advises them of the histories, current declassified

documents etc.  It is also NOT uncommon for any reports that have some proof to what

the victim is saying –To go missing from the writer and the victims’ home.

 

Some History into the Psychological Attacks & Home Invasions… 

(Done easily with illegal Tracking Methods)

As a big goal in this crime is to break down the individual psychologically – more

methods are usually applied.  Psychopaths determined to make the victim jobless,

destitute & isolated.   An easy task to accomplish when one has access to these

remotely run technologies to track the target at all times, with an endless supply of

criminal elements (including in white collar circles), to carry out the ongoing stalking and

associated tactics etc.  

Tactics are usually accomplished with little or NO substantial evidence to incriminate

these perpetrators. 

All of this is done Cleverly/Secretly,

And is usually known only to the Attackers,

And the Victims!

Other people around the victim are usually oblivious as to what is going on. Interestingly,

these stalkers can be found in every level of society. This type of harassment is known

as Stalking, Gang stalking, Cause Stalking, Street theatre. Some examples of abuse…


Bullying at work, & eventually by some friends and family.

Gang stalking - A high amount of rude people in crowds abuse/insult for no 

apparent reason.  (Using both verbal and non-verbal communication).           

Up to 20 or more strangers strategically placed giving hateful looks – for no 

apparent reason.  This scenario starts to happen every time the target 

goes out.  Sometimes it looks like they have some kind of skit/scheme and the

harassment follows a pattern.  When it achieves a certain goal, they reset

themselves and it starts all over again.

It can take many different expressions.

eg: Skit may change to attackers doing a set body movement each time you

have eye contact etc.

  Break-ins with no sign of forced entry – household items moved around &

       put back to original setting – once noticed by the victim. Vandalism to 

  various items.  Food tampering.  Sabotage of computer & electrical 

       appliances.  Many of these tactics were derived from the illegal 

       Cointelpro Programme - run by various law enforcement officials.

  Cointelpro a (Counter Intelligence Programme) was a series of covert

and often illegal projects conducted by the United States (Federal Bureau

  of Investigation) FBI aimed at surveying, infiltrating, discrediting, and 

  disrupting domestic…

 

  NOTE: They say it stopped and was only in the U.S – Not true…

(More about these Tactics, Cointelpro and the Histories of them)

Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section: BOOKLET 2

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

            

 

So what Happened to Eileen in the End?

Eileen thought she had it all once… Like countless others did.

Until early 2004 when…

Her life was completely Invaded – Sabotaged!

Having endured these horrific tactics that continued to escalate for over 7 years and…

Left with:-

 

Ill health

In constant pain

Jobless & penniless

Forced to live in a rundown area

Isolated and abandoned from the ones she thought she could count on

With NO SIGN of any long-term protection from these torturous tactics

Eileen was…  


Driven to SUICIDE!

 

Rest in Peace Eileen

A Sad Reality for - So many victims that are Ignored!

IMPORTANT NOTICE 

 

     

YOU, Your Family, Your loved ones!

Victims are Simply

Chosen Randomly!

(NOT chosen because they did something Wrong!)

       

(A global problem)

             

What Can YOU do?

This crime is carefully but professionally orchestrated, 

To make the victim 

LOOK, SOUND & to eventually go Mental!

Hidden Technologies used Covertly!

Enabling easy access to harm the Victim from a Remote Distance!

Technologies that leave NO Trace!

A Crime that can Happen to Anyone!

 

Help educate others… 

Your family, friends, colleagues…

By sharing these information’s.

(

To enhance the chance of a thorough investigation into these Crimes)

                                                          

Feel free to conveniently leave a flyer on a table in a Cafe, Library, Bus stop, Mall…

To

Prevent this Horrendous Crime Continuing into,

FUTURE GENERATIONS!

 

The Time to ACT - Is NOW!

To PRINT BOOKLET or FLYERS


Visit Page: Booklet-Public awareness & Informative Links – Section-BOOKLET 2 


 

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com                 


Please contact a group near you.

International Center Against Abuse of Covert Technologies

(U.S & Europe)

http://www.icaact.org


Association Against the Abuse of Psychophysical Weapons

(Germany)

http://tortures.oyla.de/cgi-bin/hpm_homepage.cgi

 

Freedom From Covert Harassment & Surveillance 

(U.S)

http://www.freedomfchs.com


Organised Crime of Covert Electronic Assault NZ

(New Zealand)

 

http://www.organised-crime-of-covert-electronic-assault-nz.com

 

Targeted Individuals Europe

 

http://targeted-individuals-europe.com

MindTech 

(Sweden)

 

http://www.mindcontrol.se

 

Targeted Individuals

 

She Cried out – Nobody Came!

just scroll down page till you get to the book

best wishes n love lots

denny

http://www.facebook.com/denis.osullivan.1029 my facebook page

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They again messed up the PC

.. and it was too obvious they planned it because I saw the file placed right before it conked out plus the one who was the handy woman when it comes to such things rushed to save her files first  just as soon as I sat down (not her usual way).

All my files were destroyed in the drive (except that I already knew what they were gonna do so I made sure I backed up everything.

How can people who act so judgmental be this evil?

They force me into a situation where I don't have any way but to be in the corner they want me in....

...and when I'm already in a place they can control, they steal everything I create, and do everything so they can destroy everything , intent on leaving me without my output (which they have already stolen).

What kind of freaks have these people become?

Or did I even really know them?

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Hypocrites!

How can these people act so self-righteous when they so brazenly collude with each other in committing crimes?

They work together in silencing me so they can maintain the facade that they are good when they are nothing but judgmental voyeurs getting their life by destroying somebody else's!

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